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On the Northrop-Loral F19 - it's only a model! That wiki page is easily debunked - there is no town of Longmont, Nebraska (there's one in Colorado), and hence no Longmont Aircraft Museum. There is no 17th Fighter Squadron, although the 9th Reconnaissance Wing is real. Furthermore, you can find the satellite shot of Davis-Monthan at http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ll=32.150,-110.833&z=18 rotated through 90 degrees. Note the missing aircraft. The only remaining question is why? Speculative fiction?
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The "spring cleaning" of the carriers deck is actually the fire supression system.
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I enjoyed the road rally clip. It looked like there was no room for error! Was the passenger reading instructions to the driver the whole time? Do they have a chance to memorize the road before their run?
Also, I remember the Grim Fairy tale cartoon from MAD magazine about 3 decades ago.
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"Anonymous said...
The "spring cleaning" of the carriers deck is actually the fire supression system."
I believe what we're seeing is in fact the carrier's CBRN washdown system in operation (intended to remove radiological, chemical and biological contamination).
Regards,
Thomas
Denmark
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"Was the passenger reading instructions to the driver the whole time? Do they have a chance to memorize the road before their run?"
That is indeed what the passenger is there for, and yes, they do at least one run of the road to write down the cues. Otherwise we would be seeing far slower rallies than we do today and many more accidents.
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The Northrop-Loral F19 isn't real - note that the Category for the wiki page is "Fiction". (I liked the photoshop work, though.)
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seconded for the F19. It in fact look like... the F19... by Microprose and other toy maker. When rumors started to appear in the 80' about a stealth plane somebody had to come up with an artistic view of what it could look like.
I managed to buy one Heller model last week, they fall into oblivion after the air force spoke openly about the F117
wiki at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-19_Stealth_Fighter
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The first of the two child/hand grenade pictures is "Child with Toy Hand Grenade in Central Park, New York City (1962)" by Diane Arbus, by the way - http://english.uchicago.edu/graduate/amer/images/nelson3.jpg
Pity about the Northrop-Loral being a fake, it's a beautiful concept model. I think "F19" is a designation that has never actually been used for a USAF plane, even though there are ones named up to F18 and from F20 onwards.
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Another organic architect is Dr. Eugene Tsui (info at http://www.tdrinc.com/ and specifically his architecture at http://www.tdrinc.com/architecture.html ), who also designed a Nautilis House design to accomodate a program for a growing family (just as a nautilis adds chambers to its shell as it grows). You can see model pics at http://www.tdrinc.com/wilson.html
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If you want to see a *real* rally watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSrDD3tcibU
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In the Fallout picture, the aircraft carrier is wrong: the island should be on the other side. The bow, complete with catapults, is pointing towards the viewer, yet the island is right-hand side, when it should be on the left. Either the image is reversed, or the artist painted it from a reversed image.
See here for reference:
http://hnsa.org/ships/intrepid.htm
(I presume the painting depicts the USS Intrepid at New York, but the observation would be true for any US carrier).
The Nautilus house reminds me of the art and architecture of Roger Dean. See here for examples:
http://www.rogerdean.com/architecture/index.htm
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Sorry, Anonymous. You have it exactly backward. The island on all American carriers is on the starboard (right-hand as she steams) side. In fact I don't know of a carrier from any country for which that isn't true. Note that the Navy's web site (navy.mil) has detailed information about many US ships; look it up. The picture is correct.
The "F19" has an interesting history. When rumors started going around about "invisible" airplanes, the first thing that happened was people informing the public that they were talking about radar only; they went on and on about round surfaces being bad reflectors, hiding the inlets from the ground, and similar stuff. Then sketches started making the rounds, all with rounded and swoopy lines. It even made Tom Clancy, as the "Wobblin' Goblin" of Red Storm Rising. The real F117 is so totally different that there are those, myself included, who darkly suspect a disinformation campaign, and the fact that "F19" hasn't been used feeds our paranoia :-)
Regards,
Ric
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Ric, I think you misunderstood anonymous' comment. Although carrier islands are always on the starboard side,(I know from serving aboard everything class, forrestal to nimitz) the one in "fallout" appears to be reversed in the image or the image itself is reversed. The dead givaway is that the bow is facing the viewer. also it appears to be an older class ship due to the two bridle catchers sticking out.
former flightdeck troubleshooter/tech USN.
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I don't get the comment about the carrier's island either .. it looks right to me in the picture. CVN 75 is USS Harry Truman.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/75.htm
As a point of interest, the Japanese Akagi and Hiryu had their island superstructures on the port side of the ship (there were a couple of convoluted reasons for this) but this feature increased the incidence of accidents as propeller aircraft tended to swerve left due to torque if engine power was suddenly increased. So this feature was abandoned in later ships.
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I'm the "anonymous" who posted the comment about the carrier's island. Couple of points:
1. For clarity, I'm talking about the carrier in the post-apocalyptic-style painting from the game "Fallout" at the top of the page, NOT the photograph of the washdown system being tested on CVN-75.
2. I stand by my observation: the carrier in the painting clearly has it's bow towards the viewer, which means the island is on the wrong side. All US carriers most certainly DO have the island to starboard (right) which means you can test this just by looking at the painting and the photo below it: they're both "bow-on" shots, so one of them MUST be wrong.
3. The carrier in the painting has a funnel (so it can't be a CVN-anything) and looks awfully like a SCB-125 modified Essex class, hence my tentative ID of it as the Intrepid.
HWS
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The carrier in the fallout pic is the USS Oriskany, I'm almost certain of it. Most likely inspired from it's gutted and rusted condition from before it was sunk as a reef in 2006.
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http://www.florida-divepros.com/P5160017.jpg
You're right about the island, looks like it was reversed when the drawing was made
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haha found the source pic :P
I wish I could just edit this into my previous post
http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/023435.jpg
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Think you're right about it being inspired by the Oriskany: the painting has a suggestion of an anchor chain wrapped around the bow in exactly the same way as the one in the Florida-divepros photo, and the pattern of open and shut portholes in the bow is the same.
Also, check out this picture of the actual sinking:
http://slrsite.com/gallery/v/oriskany/fire-in-the-hole-1.jpg.html
Guess that'd be where the artist got the idea for the red "glows" in the picture eh? ;-)
HWS
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Oh yeah you're right. Neat photos, I had not seen seen that set of the sinking yet.
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The first 'anonymous' -- excellent homework on your debunking...but the other anonymous got it right by noticing the 'Fiction' category highlighted and bolded at the bottom. It's not the Microprose or the Testor's stealths (that were the most common) -- it's the Monogram stealth F-19:
http://www.collectorsquest.com/blog/2008/02/04/the-stealth-that-never-was/
Testor's had inside information on some parts of the real F117 and did more research; Monogram took a space-age picture from a Loral advertisement and copied it. I prefer the latter.
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IIRC, didn't the DoD actually ,sue Testors Hawk over their F-19, and then fail to produce any evidence in court on the grounds that it was classified? I always thought that was a marvellous bit of disinformation: it lent serious credibility to the Testors Hawk version, which turned out to be nothing much like the real thing...:-D
HWS
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No suing occurred, but Congress did try to claim the Testor's model was proof that security had been breached -- a senator held up a Testor's model in session and asked, how can it be so classified if kids can buy them at a hobby shop. A high-ranking person in the F-117 project then built a simple model showing what the real stealth looked like, and took it to the security council to prove that Testor's model was entirely fictional. (this is truth, found in a couple different sources online; no time to find linkies at this time). Monogram, however, paid Testor's for the right to use the name "F-19 stealth" on the model in the Specter article, to avoid being sued for copying Testor's lead. That's why the F-19 Stealth video game looks like Testor's model: licensing fees speak volumes.
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About that Texas police car: those are not arrows! (so weird I had to Google it ;)
More pics here: http://www.lonestarstangs.com/forum/schertz-police-car-v-ak-47-a-12658.html
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That so called London Met Police Lamborghini, is a Photoshop.
One, because the Met do not have a Lambo.
Two, because its very obviously shopped.
And three, because the license plate reads "Yevil" which is the show plates given to a number of vehicles.
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It dont think the Segways with the big red sign "Paramedic" are police...
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I was a member of the forum this picture http://lh5.google.ca/abramsv/R8-tHHH54kI/AAAAAAAAKwo/TJJxpbHdwXo/2096443269_f8fd5ddb56_o.jpg?imgmax=512
was originally posted to. Neither guy is a (goofing off) police officer. It's the result of an amusing and talented amateur photographer and willing friends.
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The 2nd pic with the clown, the cops are justified in their recoil and apparent fear. People have been known to put liquids other than water into water guns, such as diluted acid, pepper spray-like liquids, bleach, ammonia etc. People are messed up.
Nice collection of pics, BTW.
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Actually, the cop leading the pig might not be dumb (or posed); Pigs have an excellent sense of smell (ask anyone who gathers truffles for a living) and, as I understand it, are just as good as dogs when it comes to sniffing out e.g. drugs. Also, a cop dragging (or being dragged by, as the case may be) a pig is probably less intimidating than some enormous, saliva-dripping German Shepherd.
Regards & all,
Thomas
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What on earth are they holding in the foreground of the 2nd picture of the Iranian Police? Whatever it is looks like it's absurdly high calibre - a flare gun, or something like an M79 maybe?
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Reply to 256:
The guns in the 2nd Iranian Police pic are competition-type target pistols. The big tube is a recoil-compensator, not a barrel: the actual barrel is above it, and may be only .22 in calibre.
This pic is presumably the Police sport-shooting team (or a staged publicitiy shot, of course). HWS
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Oops - re my last comment, the big tube isn't a recoil compensator, it's an air-reservoir: the guns are competition air-pistols........
HWS.
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Indeed they are air pistols.
Steyr LP's I beleive.
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QUOTE: Russian militia has to carry a CANNON around to adequately counter Russian mafia firepower: UNQUOTE...
this not for fight the crime mans it is for shoot the snows on montain to make the slide. avalanche you call slide snow? not goode gun for mans fight. is goode for snow slideing for make the safe. My english not so good but i am snow slide works mans. thanks you.
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Successful website
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very nice made me lol
only thing is... i dont think the segways are police, they say paramedic on the side...:S
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excellent snaps !!
really liked it... can spend days just watching them...
keep it up !!
Akshay
Web site Designing and Development Co Mumbai
www.HugeH.com
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Captain Matt: The Met Lambo isn't photoshopped, they had it at the MPH motorshow at Earls Court, London, last year. It's just one they hired for a few weeks and stuck the stickers on for publicity (I had a chat with one of the cops at the stand). So it's not really theirs, but it definately isn't photoshopped :)
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i want uniforms like those in the cosplay.the fear factor would be great especially if it was all bullet proof
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the picture with the clown is actually of a member of the clown army (The Clandestine Insurgent Rebel Clown Army), protesting. They protest against the WTO, G8, etc.. The certainly do not carry anything more lethal/harmful than water. The shock on the policeman's face was probably more due to seeing another pesky cameraman.
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Um doesn't that say Paramedic on the side of the Segway? I think there is a HUGE difference.
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The picture captioned "Russian Military Police" is neither of Russians or Police. It is of the "White Helmets" motorcycle display team who are members of the Royal Corps of Signals in the British Army. Hope that helps.
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Azumanga FTW.
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Does anyone know what that spider is? It isn't quite as horrifying as an Australian Clock Spider, but it's pretty close.
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Did you know the USSMacon was a aircraft carryer dirigible?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Macon_%28ZRS-5%29
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alvarhillo, thanks for the info, updated
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When I was younger, I was fascinated by the airships and zeppelins of the early part of the 20th Century. In fact, I have a book called "Zeppelin: The German Airship Story", which touched on their rise and fall. I am struck by the fact that they could never seem to get the design of these monsters right, and the majority of them crashed to Earth or burned up. If you can find a copy of this book, snag it. It's very fascinating.
Great article! Looks like they finally got it right!
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There are still airship hangars at Cardington in the UK. Check out the pictures on their web-site: http://www.controltowers.co.uk/C/Cardington.htm
You cannot believe the immensity of them unless you've been there, as I have. The pictures just don't do them justice
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These are the Cardington hangars on Google Earth: http://tinyurl.com/3dc4k3
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Yes, Zeppelins certainly will become a familiar site in the skies over San Francisco! BTW, we're Airship Ventures, not Airship Adventures as you credit us on a couple of the images.
www.airshipventures.com
airshipventures.blogspot.com
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one of the tallest buildings in Europe is an aqua spa in the hangar of a bankrupt modern zeppelin construction factory: http://www.tropical-islands.de/de/presse/pressefotos.html
and the central market in Riga is one of the biggest dayly markets in Europe and is in the old zeppelin hangars from the early 20th century
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Thank you for the link; what a great collection of images!
The mooring mast on top of the Empire State Building seems to have been a
publicity gimmick more than anything else. Certainly, it wasn't very well thought out: it was far too windy up there to be viable. Still, I did like seeing it in use in
Sky Captain.
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We still have new, ACTIVE airships here in Elizabeth City, NC. Production and maintenance is on the old Weeksville Naval LTA Base. http://elizcity.com/weeksnas/
http://www.newbegun.com/tour/Airship_Hanger.php
http://www.newbegun.com/tour/Bicycling_02.php
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thank you all... wonderful info
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The real Problem with Airships is, that Helium is extremely rare. As a tecnician at the Zeppelin Yard in Friedrichshafen explained to me, there is only about enough helium to fill two of the once proposed "Cargolifter" Airships. Until we synthesize a light gas we probably wont see alot of these Dreams come true.
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Airships are still wonderful ships and could be on the way back. See my 2006 post that covers much of what's on here: http://www.creationrobot.com/2006/03/airships-they-are-coming-slowly-from-many-different-companies-and-countries/
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yes the gas is a problem but not the rare is the point ,but the priece.
the cost of one fill for the cargolifter is more expensive than the rest of the zeppelin.
sry for my bad english. ^.^
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Thank you, Creation Robot - great
link!
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Hey there great article just blogged about it at Airshipworld. Here ist the Link:
Dark Roasted AirshipsRegards
Andreas
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Editor of Airshipworld
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Visit the Airshipworld Blog at
http://airshipworld.blogspot.com--------------------------------------------------------
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Thank you Andreas, we'll keep a close look on your site.
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The problem with airships of the past was that they were ahead of their time. The problem was materials and the flotation gas.
The outer materials used to "protect" the skins of these beasts turned out to be the same formulation used for solid rockets today.
The gas normally was helium, but Germany chose to use Hydrogen because the only source of helium was the USA.
The structure of these beasts were typically made out of Aluminum, a fairly new metal not quite mastered. A lot of structural failures occurred because engineers assumed Aluminum was lightweight iron, which it wasn't. Aluminum, while strong, has different characteristics, which require different engineering considerations. Hence the designs were always flawed.
Today we have carbon fiber based composites, super adhesives, light-weight fabrics and polymers, and a far superior knowledge of metals.
There is one problem, however, there is a finite supply of helium, and once it's gone, it's gone. It's so light, it just leaves our atmosphere.
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Hi Avi,
I'm looking for a higher resolution copy of your image titled "USS Macon over New York, in 1931."
ussmacon3.jpg
I'd like to make a print to put up in my living room.
Could you help me out or direct me to the source?
cheers,
Kosta
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Try this link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Uss-akron-manhattan.jpg
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The crowbar/headcrab image is a reference to the game Half-Life.
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Wüstenrot, Germany
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@gordon freeman: This is in Vienna, Austria. Wüstenrot is a company :)
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the last is made by Genevieve Gauckler :
http://www.g2works.com/
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The colourful moon image is by Neil Carboni http://ncarboni.home.att.net/Astrophotography.html
(I saw it the other day on the venerable APOD, here: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060907.html)
I hadn't really thought, until now, about how odd it is that the moon seems to be a completely monochrome world. What the picture shows is, in fact, the slight variations in colour exaggerated.
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The forked Volkswagen is a part of the Royal Deluxe (google it) performance in Iceland.
My photo of the same car:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2082/2104794414_bc0be46924.jpg
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The location is Madrid and the group is strange fruit. An australian street theater group. The performance is called "on the field" I see it and I liked a lot
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great info, thanks - updated the page.
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I've live in Macau for almost 14 years now and I can assure you that the Grand Lisboa is an architectural eye-sore.
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The problem being with Faberge jewel art is that a lot of it got destroyed in the Bolshevik uprising, as did a lot of great russian designs...
Smirnoff.
O.k, not much but still one great thing was nearly permanently destroyed.
But thats the price you pay with the scar of Communism.
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Will, yea they destroyed Smirnoff but kept the vodka... of pretty ugly variety.
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Well what’s some peasant’s life worth anyway, spend it all on jewelry and let the people starve
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I completely agree with you
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Har! Yes, the life of the peasant was ever so much better under Communism.
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I ended up doing a school project on these eggs-at first, I thought I'm simply be discussing pretty jewely egg things made by some guy in Russia. But there's a lot more history involved. It amazes me how the royal family could spend so much money on a couple eggs every easter and still let Russia's desolate people waste away.
I mean, wow. Had they used the money for materials and whatnot to make them to feed and provide other kinds of care to their people, they might have saved a lot of lives.
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The sad fact about Communism is that it replaced one rigid class system with another. The history of Communism was every bit as bad as Feudalism, and in many cases worse. The common people did not reap any benefits despite all the rhetoric handed down from on high. The ruling elite had a disproportionate amount of wealth as compared to the proletariat. As such, it was far from a classless society. Did the Romanov's have an obscenely lavish lifestyle compared to the peasants? Yes, but so did every Soviet leader except for maybe Lenin. Some may argue that the Soviet Union was never really a pure communist state as per the writings of Marx. That may be true, but Marx was too much of an idealist and failed to properly deal with human nature, and the desire of the individual to differentiate from the crowd. So, the theory works on paper, but can never work in reality.
As for the eggs, they are a beautiful example of the ingenuity and creativity of the Russian people.
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Jim-Bob:
Good insight, which I believe to be entirely correct. It's hard to summarize the whole chapter of history or ideology, but you did it remarkably well. Cheers!
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the in the last block of pictures, with the metal statues can be found in Aachen, germany.
its the "Money Fountain" or "Circulation of Money" and depicts the ways how money changes their owners, or not.
the picture you can see here on darkroastedblend is missing the "Father with Child"-part, thats on there, too.
here is a picture of the whole thing: http://www.strs.org.uk/lang_coll/trips/aachen2004/fountain-2.jpg
you can see there: father counting money infront of his child (left, missing on the picture here on drb)
next to the right is bribary, buying and selling.
in the front is the guy who isn't part of the system, and doesn't have any money, but wants some.
usually people who come by this well drop some coins in it . . . and sometimes people like the one in the front can be seen wading in it picking up the money.
Thank you - this is great info. Money Cycle...
The violin player braking trough the floor can be found inside the townhall/operahouse in Amsterdam. The artist is unknown and the statue is placed there 'illegal' (or so they tell the people).
There are a few more statues in the city by the same artist (but he/she is still 'unknown')
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alessandro_isnotaurelio/1498736852/
Where do you find the feather tie?
Very interesting article !
(by the way I'm Stéfan from Flickr and the Révolte des Mannequins blog)
@Brian Hall : the feather tie is from the Hunter from the Revolt of the Mannequins. More photos here.
check this out, its on the city of Chihuahua Mexico, its on spanish.
http://www.pascualita.com/leyenda.htm
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