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Wednesday, March 19, 2008

Armenia: The Epic Land


"QUANTUM SHOT" #390
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This article is co-written by Rhyne, the author of "The Armenia Blog", and Avi Abrams, DRB. Photography (except where otherwise stated) is from the beautiful travel portfolio site of Vahe Peroomian, by his graceful permission.

Epic history joins epic fantasy, in almost Tolkien-like landscape

Armenia is one of the oldest countries on Earth, its rich history apparent at every turn, from the capital city of Yerevan to the outskirts of the nation. It survived the Roman Empire, Alexander the Great, the Armenian Genocide in 1915 and dozens of other attempts at conquest - remaining largely independent throughout its history.

Armenia was also among the first post-Soviet countries to readily embrace capitalism, which served to improve somewhat the standard of living, but brought with it a score of other problems. However, regardless of (presently improving) economic situation, the point of this article is to remind the reader (and maybe the future visitor) about the incredible natural and cultural wonders of this country.


(Khorvirap Monastery with Mount Ararat, photo by Andrew Behesnilian)


Feel the deep poetry of stones:
(Armenia's mystical old churches & monasteries)




Garni Temple - This temple was constructed over 2,000 years ago and was likely paid for by Emperor Nero of Rome. It is probably the most eastern Greek temple in the world - Greek Gods were worshipped there until Armenia's adoption of Christianity (Armenia was the first country to officially adopt Christianity, in 301 A.D.)


(image credit: Anton)


(image credit: Alessandro)

Peaceful (and somewhat dreamy) monastery on Lake Sevan (also called Sea of Guegham) -


(image credit: Alessandro)

Spring at Echmiadzin Cathedral.(Built in 303 A.D.) -


(image credit: Isabelle)

Now we're entering the "epic fantasy" territory. Or rather, historic reality infused with deep spirituality - so evident in these places, visited by hordes of busy tourists - and waiting for a period of silence and a revered pause to speak to our inner selves. The interior of Geghart (or Geghard) Monastery (12th Century) -



Noravanq Monastery is located in the picturesque rocky mountainous region of Vayotz Dzor:



This place reminds me most of some "Lord of the Rings" locations:



Amroc: some nameless old stronghold -


(images credit: Albert)

Amberd Fortress (11 - 13th Century) sits on the slopes of Mt. Aragats:



Boromir and Aragorn would've loved it here. Areni Church, in the Vayots Dzor region of Armenia, is shadowed by a crag rising to its south:



Haghbat Monastery (10th - 13th Century) interior:



Makenyats Monastery sits on the slopes of the Gegharkunik range:



Tatev Monastery, in the Syunik region of Armenia:





Haghartzin Monastery, in the Tavush region of Armenia, is surrounded by dense forests and almost completely isolated. (the 13th century) -



Going even deeper into the mists of time:

Armenian Stonehedge - Believed to be somehow related to the Stonehenge in England, it also predates it by about 3,500 years! Karahundj, also known as Zorats Karer, is a 2nd Millenium BC rock fromation on a plain outside Sisian, in the Syunik Region:




This kind of nature needs an IMAX

The location of ancient city of Ani - former capital of Armenia about a thousand years ago. "It has suffered a lot from invasions, neglect and earthquakes. It is in far Eastern Turkey, near the town of Kars, right on the border with modern Armenia":


(image credit: Norman Grant)

Garni Village: Armenia enjoys all four seasons, but its winters are especially beautiful -


(image credit: Anton)

Lake Sevan is one of the largest high-altitude lakes in the world (covering 5% of Armenia), sitting some 2 kilometers above the sea level.


(image credit: Ara G.)


(image credit: titanium rodent)


(image credit: Alexanyan)

Springs on the old road to Jermuk:



Crystallized basalt cliffs in the Garni Gorge:



Shaki Waterfalls (Shaki was the prettiest girl of the region who chose to jump off from the cliffs to near death, rather than give herself to the Mongol invader Timur Lenk)


(image credit: pragaapple)

Zontik Waterfall:


(image credit: Raffi Kojian)


Armenian urban life picks up speed

Yerevan's Freedom Square buildings are made of solid slabs of granite and tufa, the latter responsible for the yellowy-red color found in structures throughout Armenia:


(image credit: Anton)

"The Singing Fountains" of the Republic Square (watch them in action in this video) -



(images credit: Vaghinak Petrosyan)

Designed by Prof. Abram Abramyan, they combine music, water and colour into a unique, unified whole - Yerevan got one of the first such installations in the world, back in the 60s.

Another photo of Yerevan:


(image credit: Alessandro)

Yerevan at Night: Armenia's capital city has a very vibrant night life, with people filling its many pedestrian-friendly streets until the early hour of morning. Mount Ararat, the possible Biblical landing of Noah's Ark, stands guard (the Soviet-era architecture, admittedly, is unbelievably ugly)


(image credit: randbild)




(images credit: Andrew Behesnilian)

Kids at the wedding:


(image credit: Arsineh Khachikian)

Statue of David of Sassoun, who is said to have driven Arabic invaders out of Armenia in ancient times -


(image credit: Alexanyan)

Immense crystal chandelier, one of dozens, that hangs inside the Opera House:


(image credit: Roupen Nahabedian)

Modern Office Building - and a Maybach car - in Yerevan (capitalism did indeed bring a higher standard of living for most and a luxurious lifestyle for the lucky few)


(image credit: Khashayar Zand)




From modern money to ancient carved mysteries

No matter where you are in Armenia, you are never too far away from Khachkars - the ancient Cross Stones, which pepper countryside and can be found in many cathedrals.

There are approx. 40,000 of them, each khachkar an intricate and unique engraving (amazingly, some feature Celtic knot pattern) with a mighty legend or a prayer commemorated on it... Here is one near Odzun monastery:


(image credit: Hovik Melikyan)

The art of these "immortality reminders" is probably worth a separate post. Send us the patterns that you find most beautiful. Also, our next entry in the Near and Middle East travelogue series will be Lebanon, and its natural wonders (if you have good pictures, please let us know)



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COMMENTS:

17 Comments:

Blogger Vier said...

Amazing pictures! I have to visit this place.

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Anonymous leorolim said...

Looks beautiful!
And cold! :D
Nice photos.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Echt starke Bilder!
Kurtchen (Bremen/Germany)

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Blogger Holy Cuteness said...

Besutiful especailly the pics from Reykjavik I think, I really wanna go there sometime...

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Anonymous bob said...

These pictures remind me a lot of Armenia's neighbor, Georgia. And the distinctive dome-cross architecture of the churches in the photos is the same as found in old and new Georgian churches. example: Svetitskhoveli Cathedral

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

How beautiful! The beauty of the wilderness is enhanced by there being not one single person in each of those pictures

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Blogger kmars314 said...

Thank you for posting this!! I'm Armenian and am proud of the beautiful country =) These are gorgeous photos!

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Blogger Rhyne said...

I'm glad you guys are enjoying the photos. Do you want more??? :)

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Blogger kmars314 said...

yes post some more =)

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Blogger raphtee said...

Ethiopia (and not Armenia) was the first Christian country by the way

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's been established that armenia was, in fact, the first christian nation...but bickering over that would be pretty un-christian, huh?

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Blogger rodbot said...

great shots.

I love this site

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry raphtee you are mistaken, the Armenians were indeed the first nation to become Christians in 301.
In 2001 Canada post issued a commemorative stamp in this honour...check out the history pages...Google search Gregory the Illuminator, very interesting historical facts :)
Breathtaking pics by the way!

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Blogger Donald said...

Thank you for collecting and sharing these wonderful pictures of the land of my ancestors. My Armenian mother was born in Iran and raised in France, living 60 years in Denmark now. The rest of my family is mostly in California.

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Blogger Avi Abrams said...

thank you guys for all great comments... Visit Armenia, and be a blessing to Armenian people.

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Blogger Adam said...

If the temple at the beginning of the article was built over 2000 years ago it could not have been paid for by Nero. Nero was emperor of Rome from 54 AD to 68 AD. Also, if Nero did pay for it, or it was built approximately 2000 years ago, that would firmly make it Roman, not Greek.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Adam, when they write Greek, this means Helenist style, and not from Greece or having Greek nationality!

David

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    then the guy with the mask would fit in as well ..
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    Here at Creationism Labs, we seek the Truth in our own way. We hurl King James Bibles together at great speed, smashing them into tiny bits of paper which we paste together to form new Divine Revelations.
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  • HOW DO YOU DO…
    TIME TRAVEL

    21st century boring you?
    Want a way to walk with dinosaurs that isn’t sitting really close to the TV to watch an unrealistic 3D diplodocus eat leaves?
    You need a holiday in time, or dinoworld

    Tick, tick, tick… tick

    1.5 million years since fire was lit, 35,000 years after the birth of art, 16,000 years from the first mappings of stars and 600 years since the blueprints of the helicopter were drawn. We sit here thinking, “Y’know the 21st century could have been a bit more, well, silvery.” Aside from those metal toasters that’ll burn a farmyard animal into your bread and those credit cards with one of the corners cut off a bit. The 21st century has had:

    No proper Robots. My house isn’t doing stuff for me when I go to work so when I get back it’s like a new house and the kitchens in the bathroom. Cars and skateboards don’t hover. We can’t holiday in space and the so called information super highway is still not bypassing my brain with an LCD screen in my eye and USB ports in my tippy toes.

    AHHhhhh, yet as a time traveller you can go to the future where these things should have occurred with a few other things that you probably didn’t think about; like a chocolate bar called waffpinuts. A wafer, pineapple and nuts bar wrapped in Kevlar.

    Then, go back in time to tell all those people on Tomorrows World that hoodwinked our innocent child eyes, “Hey hey, perm-head, that ain't going to happen you pre-foetus futurist fuck.”
    And they’d have to believe your aggressive preaching cos you’d bring an almanac from 2008 with all the sports results and next weeks Eastenders from UK-GOLD, so there.

    ...continues at lifestyleguides.blogspot.com
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  • I've been there on a school trip. Very massive stuff!
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  • Well This Time Travel is meant for atomic particles. If you are actually planning to travel and forget about the urban time then plan your trip for free at my blog.
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  • "a fraction of an inch"?

    Shame on you Avi. I'm sure they use micrometer and nanometer scales there...
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  • Great post, but I have a minor nit to pick.

    CERN invented the web, not the internet. I'll try to explain the difference without geeking out too much.

    The web is the to-level user interface - you just point and click to get around. It's very user friendly, but the real work is done by the internet.

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    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet#History

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web#History

    Again, thanks for the post.
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  • First of all I'd like to know how the heck they designed this in the first place. How do they know how they need to design all those intricate little parts when most people don't know how to program their VCR?

    Second, this seems dangerous as hell. If it destroys the planet then odviously we're too stupid and careless to be worthy of life and deserve our destruction. But piss on those scientists who just have to KNOW what happens when you recreate the conditions of the big bang.

    Third, who gives a damn other than the physicists and scientists? Seriously, more than half the planet doesn't have access to clean drinking water. With all the problems in the world, all the new technologies that could benefit ALL of mankind some enormous amount of money has been spent but will it end poverty? Will it put food on starving people's tables? Will it end wars, solve transportation problems, create economic bliss?

    If you asked me I think the eye opening stuff that this experiment will produce will only be interesting and beneficial to less than 1% of the global population. But hey, at least the contractors who worked on this made some good money doing it!
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  • Just to clarify, folks: There won't be any human-sized time-travellers stepping out of thin air at CERN when this things switches on... *Unless* the visitors have developed a completely different method of getting here.

    What the LHC *might* do is create something a bit like a tiny test-loop of scalextric track in time, that proves the principle of someday being able to build a full sized motorway. That doesn't mean a bus full of tourists will suddenly appear on top of it. (And if it did, they'd break it! =:o} )
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  • ...And to the anonymous fearmongers: The scale of risks are pretty much proportional to amounts of energy involved. Think of the scale of accident that occurs when people drive at 80mph rather than at 40mph: Twice the speed, gives four times the kinetic energy; give four times the destruction when you crash.

    Yes, the LHC will be accelerating protons to vast energies... *relative to the size of a proton*, which is incredibly tiny! They aren't going to destroy the planet. If they seriously booboo, they *might* trash some part of the collider which will cost megabucks to fix, but that's it.
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  • Lots more gorgeous photos of the Large Hadron Collider, and an explanation in non-geek language of why it's so cool, on National Geographic magazine's story, "The God Particle":
    http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/03/god-particle/achenbach-text
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  • @Peter: WTF is a VCR? Whats life like in the 80s? Is Michael Jackson still a star to you?
    *scnr*
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  • "more than half the planet doesn't have access to clean drinking water. With all the problems in the world, all the new technologies that could benefit ALL of mankind some enormous amount of money has been spent but will it end poverty? Will it put food on starving people's tables? Will it end wars, solve transportation problems, create economic bliss?"

    This reminds me of the apochryphal story of Michael Faraday demonstrating one of his electromagnetic devices for a visiting politician: the official supposedly asked him what possible use the device could be put to. Faraday's reply: "Someday, you may be able to tax it."

    What purpose did electricity come to serve? How many ways has it ended up ameliorating the ills of mankind? If we hold to the sentiment stated above, no one would ever have had the opportunity to find out.

    We don't know what lies behind a closed door, we must open it to see: perhaps to find riches enough for all, or nothing.

    If we establish a world where no one is allowed to take risks in order to learn, we should not be surprised to see poverty increase, not decrease.
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  • "G Pro said...

    Awe inspiring and yet frightening at the same time. Could be a way to join general relativity and quantum mechanics and finally provide us a TOE. I want proof there are more than three spatial dimensions; the fourth being time."

    You should check out Richard C. Hoagland and torsion physics. Build on the original Maxwellian physics (before a student of his rewrote his theories to 'clear them up'. Look at Maxwell's first or second editions...).
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  • Thank you Marylin - an awesome link!
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  • @ David Bryden (religion/creationism guy)

    In my opinion:

    Better spent money than any cathedral or church. Religion-based thinking never solved/discovered anything, it has only caused many years of slowing down technological advancements and caused humans to fight for thousands of years for a cause nobody can specify/prove/show...

    Everybody has the right to believe what they want.

    I say "let's drop religious cults once and for all", there MIGHT be something out there, but if we're gonna discuss about it we won't find it. Less talk more action!

    We should invest a LOT more in (Space) exploration because that's where all the answers lye, not in books written (and constantly adapted) hundreds/thousands of years ago by some men who wanted to have more power/money.

    I think lots of religious people would end up in "hell" (if there even is one) because they speak "in the name of God/Allah".

    Would you like it if I speak in YOUR name? You don't know who/what your "God" is, so you shouldn't tell others how to worship "Him/Her/It"! You might upset this force.

    If we non-indoctrinated people want to investigate through empirical research in stead of mindless swallowing ancient-old mombo-jambo, let us do so.
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  • @ the last anonymous, talking to david there.

    ok, you really think he's serious? did you even READ the second part of his post? he's obviously being sarcastic.
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  • Эх братцы !!! Ебанёт так ебанёт!
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  • hmmm, time travel o.O
    I don't really believe that it could happen, but I do think that it's worth the research and trying to do
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  • they still don't understand a grand unifying theory. so many things scientists don't know.

    But they "assure" us that nothing can go wrong.

    If they do recreate the big bang the good news it probably won't hurt for more than a fraction of a millisecond.
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  • So..if we go back in time and kill Hitler- are we going to get some Red Alert timeline?
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  • These 2 scientist go to God & say "We figured it out. We can spontaneously create life out of nothing! We don't need You to do anything"

    Good says "Show me"

    So the scientists start to show Him & reach down and and grab a handful of dirt.. Then God interrupts them and says " No.. go get your own dirt!"
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  • David Bryden you are a toolbag. Take the bridge.
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  • IM GOING TO TRAVEL TIME SO HARD
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  • Why haven't we found evidence of life in space yet? Because most intelligent species are too curious for their own good: They build a Large Hadron Collider, are surprised when it creates a black hole, and the last word they utter as their planet disappears is "oops."
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  • OMG, John Titor was really from the future !!!!!

    www.johntitor.com
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  • Fucking complex. It could and it could not work...time, time travel... something that can not be understood completely. It would be way to easy to "fuck things up." Believing it could be done, and maybe this is it?
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  • I don't think that they'll screw this up or destroy the planet blah blah like everyone's crying about. its CERN for christ's sake. these guys are probably 100 times smarter than anyone reading this article.
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  • If somebody invest such amount of money ho probably expects to get something out of is investment - in other word - Would you invest your many without a real possibility of getting profits?

    I wonder who invests and what he expects to get?
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  • Re time travel: may I remind you of the very convincing logic argument by Larry Niven that the only stable state is a universe where time travel isn't possible. :-)
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  • this race of aliens just tried it http://www.alphagalileo.org/index.cfm?_rss=1&fuseaction=readrelease&releaseid=528069
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  • How ironic it would be if the chronically neutral Swiss were the ones to destroy the planet. Too bad there wouldn't be anyone left to appreciate it.
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  • Time machine shtime machine, I wanna know who that hottie technician is!
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  • Interesting story on a structure that has huge implications. And thank you for posting all the pics; they really help in giving a proper sense of scale.
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  • who's the sexy engineer girl.. i want to marry her. Could you imagine the pillow talk ;)
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  • Well as time can say, there are still peoples that don't have good insight about too many things in this world, for then to say the dumbest thing should check their mouth at the door, because every things have a point of view and sure enough we have the one's that don't have the wisdom's that give us, shame on you for being dead in the brain.
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  • And about God, don't you think that the knowledge that he is giving us would help man kind along with the wisdoms that we have get. Why would he not help his peoples to learn the true, you have seen it in the book,it call the Bible: The of God.
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  • God put all we need to know about the Cosmos into His holy book.
    If that was true, we never would have to seek answers to our questions.
    If we were content with holy books, we never would enjoy the miracles of electricy (light, internet etc.) and optics (TV etc.); heck, we would still be living in tribes, hunting and foraging for our survivals. Population: a few thousands, since we wouldn't be able to effectively defend ourselves against predators of the era.

    God (in whatever form) gave us our talents and he would not like us wasting them, would he now?

    Leave your narrow mind behind; if you do not like the science, do not butt into it.

    Thank you.
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  • ok, it sucks that this has to be done...repeating: david bryden was being sarcastic. any person who commented on him by slamming religion, nice try, but you're a twat. smashing king james bibles together then re-arranging the tiny bits of paper to come up with new stuff is not *actually* a part of any christian belief system, as much as it makes sense to believe so. why don't you find something useful to do, like turn yourself into mulch. then you can help out the guy concerned with food distribution throughout the world by growing some out of your arse. seriously.
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  • wow... seems like some people have attention span to read only first sentence of anything... reading a book? what a strange idea.
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  • half the world is starving?

    You know what, screw that.

    If mankind were to focus our efforts as a whole to carrying every single person who can't feed themselves, there would be ZERO progress.

    The fact that most of the world lives in comfort (at least by the standard of being hungry) is a testament to the power of progress. If we spent all our time trying to get food to every hut and village that for whatever reason (be it their government, refusing to move, or refusing to adapt to a new world), then those of us who are pushing forward would never make progress.

    Screw them. There I said it and I'm not ashamed of it. It is not the fault of those who are progressing our world that every last person isn't being carried along the way... there are so many billions that ARE being carried that it outweighs it a thousand times.

    If the discovery of the telephone was replaced with a tribe being fed for a year would it have been worth it? What of the countless people who have been born since then (and possible due to) that invention? The changes to our world and improvements has saved/produced more lives then that tribe ever would have, and they're productive lives.

    Fault does NOT lie on the men and women of progress to drag along every member of society, it falls on both those people and their rulers. Look into the corruption and ass-hattery of some of these poor peoples countrys. Blame them, not the people who are trying to improve the world, and to hell to you for being so simple minded
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  • at least i got to see that sexy female physicist/engineer/tech before they push the big red button and blow the planet to smithereens.
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  • "Childhood's End"

    Human Kind had a choice. To remain as organic beings - simple and cooperative or to become distinct evolved processes of thought. Without bodies. There was a point of divination in this work of fiction and it occured ,... AT THE BEGINNING
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  • HOW IN THE WORLD could they have KNOWN that this is EXACTLY what I have in miniature in my newest ROCKET brand ray-gun? UNCANNY!

    http://informiorium.blogspot.com/2008/03/alrighty-folks-rocket-brand-ray-gun-is.html
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  • I speak from experience when I say that punching holes in reality is not a good thing.
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  • Nice pictures, but who’s going to benefit from all of this, really?, if you ask me the one that was on the right track many years ago was Nikola Tesla, with his later experiments and vision of a future with free endless energy for everybody, as soon as they knew there wasn’t going to be any profit, they buried Tesla and his projects. Tesla’s theories were fascinating, based on frequencies, he also though about time travel, and there are some documents around that prove his success, on the matter. they were safe and worked, doesn’t any of you wonder why no one has publicly develop Tesla’s latest inventions? or have they done it sneakingly, like with his development of the “death ray”, (HAARP) but with a different purpose. This CERN’s project sounds to me like a fifty-fifty an enormous risk based on one theory, and becomes quite scary when the one pushing the buttons doesn’t even know what’s going to happen. one way or another is a good thing to read peoples reactions to something like this, so thanks to every one.
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  • Goodbye folks. It was horrible knowing you. The end is nigh...
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  • Y ESA MAQUINA PARA QUE PUTAS FUNCIONA....???
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  • As peter said, who gives a damn other than the physicists and scientists? Seriously, more than half the planet doesn't have access to clean drinking water. With all the problems in the world, all the new technologies that could benefit ALL of mankind some enormous amount of money has been spent but will it end poverty? Will it put food on starving people's tables? Will it end wars, solve transportation problems, create economic bliss?

    If you asked me I think the eye opening stuff that this experiment will produce will only be interesting and beneficial to less than 1% of the global population. But hey, at least the contractors who worked on this made some good money doing it!
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  • This is my response to science vs. religion debate. I think, the bible is not really about the cosmos! God didn't inspire the bible to explain everything we need to know about science. That argument is irrational and absurd.

    Assuming the bible is true, and I think it is: the bible was created for a specific purpose. Mainly to justify Jehovah's right to rule (God's sovereignty). There are some side points as well. But, from front to back, it has a genuine theme. It tells us who God is, what he is like, and how to walk with him. It explains God's guidelines and regulations. It explains why things are so bad, and finally, it details God's plan to fix things; ultimately setting them right.

    In a nutshell, the bible can be defined as follows. It introduces us to God, tells us about him, tells us what's wrong with the world, what God did to fix things, who God sent to fix them, and what we must do to be fixed.

    The bible is basically a textbook for living properly. Or more appropriately, how to live in harmony with God. It has little to do with anything else. God created everything complex for a reason. Without complexity what fun would life be? It gives us more to learn. The bible says there is no limit to God's knowledge, so it would be impossible to tell us everything in one book. It only told us what was necessary. He knew good and well we'd figure out lots of other things on our own. That's what science is for.

    Albert Einstein said it best.

    "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
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  • Here is another well known Einstein quote...

    "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

    So when Einstein said "science is lame without religion and religion is blind without science" he was really saying...

    "Science is lame without the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world, and the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world is blind without science."
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  • So where exactly is the Flux Capacitor?
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  • Absolutely amazing stuff. I can't wait to read what they found out when they launch it (even if it's likely they won't find that Higgs bosson).
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  • Scientific progress goes "Boink!"
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  • CLEARLY ALIENS ARE HELPING WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY!!
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  • CERNs web site states that we have not been destroyed by effects of cosmic rays and micro black holes will evaporate.

    However, cosmic rays travel too fast to be captured by Earths gravity, and Hawking Radiation is disputed and contradicts Einsteins highly successful relativity theory. Collider particles smash head on like a car collision and can be captured by Earths gravity, and relativity predicts micro black holes will not decay (Hawking called Einstein doubly wrong, yet it is Einstein who is repeatedly found to have been correct in his theories). There is currently no reasonable proof of LHC safety, LSAG (LHC Safety Assessment Group) has been trying for months to prove safety without success. I hold the minority opinion that it may not be possible because it may in fact not be safe.

    Cosmic Rays from the legal complaint.

    any such novel particle created in nature by cosmic ray impacts would be left with a velocity at nearly the speed of light, relative to earth. At such speeds, . . . , is believed by most theorists to simply pass harmlessly through our planet with nary an impact, safely exiting on the other side. . . . Conversely, any such novel particle that might be created at the LHC would be at slow speed relative to earth, a goodly percentage would then be captured by earths gravity, and could possibly grow larger [accrete matter] with disastrous consequences of the earth turning into a large black hole.

    If this thing is so safe, why arent CERN scientists allowed to express any personal fears they might have about this Collider?

    Alleged in the legal action: Chief Scientific Officer, Mr. Engelen passed an internal memorandum to workers at CERN, asking them, regardless of personal opinion, to affirm in all interviews that there were no risks involved in the experiments, changing the previous assertion of minimal risk.

    (Statisticians generally consider minimal risk as 1-10%).

    JTankers
    LHCConcerns.com
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  • I feel a new Dan Brown novel coming on...
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  • hat's what they said about nuclear energy guys, and look where that got us in the early days... I've read about this thing before, about 4 years ago when they hadn't started building the physical tunnel yet. All I can remember from that is the same thing I'm thinking now; Is it really worth risking the planet to "see if we can do it"? in this case time travel, which, don't get me wrong, is an incredible concept to ponder over over a blunt with your mates, but not to test out on our already teetering ecology.

    The problem is that this is a man made machine and therefore prone to errors, and there is no 'dev box' to run a dry test run of this thing to see if it works, not least of which is that it is based on THEORY in newly entered scientific territory. The next point of contention i have is that, being humans, we tend to like power but are notoriously crap at wielding it with any sort of decorum or aplomb. Following on from that is the fact that this thing is designed to have more gravity than a black hole and more heat than the fuggen sun chaps!!! Furthermore, what of the potential social and civil implication of leaving a bunch of emotionally devoid morally bankrupt global megalomaniacs to their devices with a machine that can bend space and time? Think of all the downright dastardly stuff our honorable world leaders have committed behind our back, or more accurately, right under our ignorant noses.

    All i have to say to whoever is behind this?

    "Nice idea but go test out your toys on Mars, if you've truly even been there, assholes..."

    PS : Quote me on that.
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  • Maybe this is where all black holes come from. Each civilization crawls up out of the goo, acquires a bunch of knowledge and resources then goes Poof - black hole - galaxy forms around it.

    Next....
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  • "doesn’t any of you wonder why no one has publicly develop Tesla’s latest inventions?"

    Most likely because he went a little crazy in his later years and started calling relativity hogwash while touting his own theories about dynamic gravity.

    "not least of which is that it is based on THEORY in newly entered scientific territory"

    Well done. You've identified the purpose of science. Testing and hopefully confirmation of a theory through experimentation

    "Nice idea but go test out your toys on Mars, if you've truly even been there, assholes..."

    As if we need to waste another couple of billion dollars moving that big thing out onto another planet, let alone the risks of sending people to mars
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  • hmm. im not sure why. but i dont like it.
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  • Isn't if there was a functional time machine built any time in the future we would be seeing people from the future? perhaps that explains the pyramids and the hospitals full of crazies though.
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  • A couple of technical points:

    The 'invention of the internet' thing is a bit dubious to me, because if I recall the basic Internet protocols were actually a DARPA/ARPA (name changes based on era, it's been alternately called the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency and the less militaristic Advanced Research Project Agency).

    As to the black holes. People get really scared when they're mentioned, but in reality the dominant force of a microscopic black hole is not gravity. In addition black holes emit energy in the form of Hawking radiation. Any black hole that size would literally evaporate before it could aggregate enough matter to form a self-sustaining singularity. Very much faster.
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  • There seems to be a lot of fear mongering going on on this board. Does anyone actually have an idea of the risks involved (statistics), and might I add that the fear of blowing up the world has never stopped experiments in the past. Hydrogen bomb, anyone?
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  • This is quote from:
    http://www.notepad.ch

    It's a whiz-bang experiment, with a downside that could really suck

    This is a quote from an article by Graham (Graham Phillips is the presenter of ABC TV's Catalyst and a former astrophysicist) in The Age in Australia published on the 13. April 2008.

    Graham Phillips introduces the article with:
    'WILL the world end later this year? In mid-August, in a chamber deep underneath the Swiss-French border, physicists will switch on a machine that might produce the first man-made black holes. Normally only found in outer space, these high-gravity objects have a reputation for devouring all matter in their vicinity — and they only stop when the food runs out. Could the Earth's first black hole also end up being its last, after it sucks in the chamber, the physicists, and the entire planet?'

    This is quote from:
    http://www.notepad.ch
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  • wow, who is that engineer girl?
    i will devote my life to scientific experiences to join CERN crew and meet this girl :)
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  • Amen, brother
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  • Would you like to contact the CERN?

    http://www.lhcconcerns.com/LHCConcerns/Forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=136

    Regards

    admin
    notepad.ch
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  • It won't create a black hole that can devour the Earth. The experiment was already done. It followed Steven Hawking's Radiation, where a black hole can basically evaporate.

    And for time travel... it's only into the future. Sorry guys. Thats how relativity works. Travelling at near-light speeds allow you to time travel basically... which is only possible at the sub-atomic scale in this particle accelerator - smaller than an atom.
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  • This is a time machine and it works. 2008 is the earliest year we can return to because there is no way to go back any further, because the machine did not function until it was turned on. I know because it was 2013 and I finally about to bone my girlfriend, but then we saw that there was this black hole, and then she said that there was no-way.
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  • The end is nigh. We are all about to be eaten by a black hole. We are all going to die.
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  • Time machine... sheez! and these holy rollers... tsk, tsk. comparing this thing to the brain... Some of this stuff I just read, I don't know whether or not to be amused, insulted, disgusted, or just plain pissed off. And since anger always works, let me just answer the most important question:

    Because we don't know.

    That's what it all boils down to.
    That's what it means to be a tool using monkey.

    And when the tools we have don't answer the questions we discover using the tools we do have, why, we build a bigger tool. And that's what it means to be a tool using monkey fulfilling the will of god.

    So, yay CERN!
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  • I (and obviously many others) am interested to see if this massive investment of time and resources bears fruit. What I am not concerned about is the possibility that the earth will be swallowed into a man-made singularity.

    Even *if* such a thing were created in the collider, and even *if* Hawking was totally off-base and the singularity will not evaporate...ever, there will not be a sufficiently large superdense core mass to destroy the planet by pulling the entire thing into a singularity.

    Worst case scenario? Enough mass gets "sucked" and compressed onto our hypothetical singularity fast enough to create a dangerous and unstable layer that basically explodes violently and sprays around a liberal amount of hard radiation.

    Sure it might be a powerful enough effect to be like a small nuke (or a large nuke for that matter), and it may be possible that the effect could be perpetual, but the Atlantic is between the collider and my home, so it's not exactly an immediate problem, for me anyway.

    Now later on, once the singularity tunnels into the ground deep enough and digests enough mass, it will have more widespread effects and become a threat to the stability of the planet itself, but those guys at CERN are super-geenyous-es. They'll get it sorted out.

    Hopefully the thing would just get stably trapped in random materials at some point and get lost among the other rocks. ;-)
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  • guess will fkin killl us before NIBIRU does haha
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  • My god! So many people are retarded! First of all, they're scientists, not shelf stackers at office works. They know their stuff. Think about it, they have families too. Do you really think they just wanna kill themselves for it? Of course they don't! The world isn't going to implode! The world wont turn into strange matter! Aliens will not come out of some weird portal and recreate the events of the half-life series! And if it does? Then that's it. You didnt get to hook up with that hot blonde 4 doors down, you didn't get to have a kid, you didn't finish university, and you never got to play gta 4. See the people that matter most to you, be extra sweet to your girlfriend, treat your mumma right, come down to Australia, have a can of vb, and have a great time! Be happy with your life, and you wont have anything to worry about. You've got less than 25 days. If you're lonely go out and get some friends, just talk to randoms. Go skydiving, unless you're scared of heights, then it could kill you. And if that's not your thing, fine. Doesn't matter if you just like to sit at home and watch military comedies with dad, or cook with mum, just be happy no matter what comes in your way. Have fun =)
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  • they used a stretch of that for the filming of terminator 3 (when they are running along that big magnet thing 2 kill that sexy terminator in the red leather suit LOL
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  • Turn that silly thing on, I'm ready and willing for anything that happens! I've always wanted to go through a black hole to see if you really can't escape. How would anyone know that you can't?... I wanna see if this thing really does produce black holes, and if it does, we'll probably start researching them ASAP. And if it doesn't well then we have a whole lot of new stuff to look at on our hands. It's simple people! We watched too many fake movies about microscopic black holes that can eat our planet - who's to say they will grow big huh. How would you know, have you lived next to one? Have you done research on one? I have much more to say. But most people probably wont even read all of this. But if you do want to send me a message, send it to my myspace cuz this is just some site I wondered on. www.myspace.com/Wraith3777
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  • Awww...a MINI BLACK HOLE! How adorable, I want one! Is it friendly? Will it eat cat food? How big does its bunker have to be?
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  • I liked to oops theory!
    So, by now, what we're going to say is: "oops I did it again"...
    Yeah, it's certainly a time machine!
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  • I am in awe of this machine!!! It is truly amazing to see this taking shape and starting up and to imagine what it must have taken to build it. The pictures are stunning. This machine seems to sum up what is best about humanity - perhaps even more so than the politically tangled moon landings and early space program. This is a quest for discovery simply because discovery is essential for us and our civilization - and a fundamental part of us. That transcends the gloom generated by all the people who just cry 'waste of money' and worse because they cant see or understand the end result of it and therefore assume that it will be 'worthless' - or cannot see the huge human significance of this and other big projects. You want waste of money, look at the military budget or the crazy political systems that surround us. It is this sort of exploration and the understanding that it slowly generates that will help us progress away from the primitive and selfish outlooks and relationships with the world that we have now. To cure poverty and fix the world's woes, you have to fix human culture as a whole - and you do that by discovering and thinking. Not by just buying them a meal. You do it through amazing experiments like this and people who dare to try things or think things where they dont know what will happen. That's where everything that surrounds us came from, after all!

    Given the Amount of money that people as a whole spend on killing each other - sorry, otherwise known as the military budget - i am very glad we decided to pump some cash into something like this. It proves to me that humanity isn't hopeless. This machine is what humanity is all about!!! Cant you feel the throb of it? Beautiful! ;-)
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  • US Military Budget for 2007 = $439,300,000,000 [439.3 BILLION]

    Cost of LCH = up to 6,400,000,000 [6.4 BILLION]

    So yes - agreed with the above! Talk of wasted money seems a bit silly really, doesn't it.
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  • I work @cern. We create a Star Gate.
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  • This is our new bredband internet. In the pipe are our glass fibers.

    Got the picture?

    We also use the tunnel for cheese and as a modern winecellar.
    And as a safe place to store money.

    It just a big swiss army knive, with timetravel option.

    That girl is an actor we hired. She works for Adecco a believe.
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  • Aha! The truth comes out..
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  • Actually the unit will force the planet to change the magnetic poles, so that point will be magnetic North shifting the earths rotation. So hold on Folks! Time to ride a planet!
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  • this whole thing is just cool - and if we end up being sucked into the black hole it will happen so quickly we won't even know what happened - we wont even know - we wont even - we wont - be
    cool
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  • sooo... to all you who are wondering what this is going to do for all the people that are starving and without energy, blah blah. it actually will benefit everyone. when mankind has a unified theory of physics we will be master manipulators of our environment, we would be able to come up with great new ways to create energy and control our environment. science is about being in control of our environment through total understanding. if we can understand and harness the very stuff that everything is made of we could create endless energy and on and on. science builds on itself, scientific progress may seem meaningless to some, but in the big picture it always leads to a better life for everyone. how the hell do you think you got to even be able to type some of the stupid shit you all are saying. science, it brought you the internet, your phone, your car, your keyboard, your children even (science has saved many children at birth that normally would have died). the fact is most of us would not exist now if we tried to solve everyone's problems. we can not save the world we can only save ourselves. all this talk about starving people is really a product of the media trying to market products to people. stop paying money to make comercials about Darfur and just fix the problem. the problem is, if there was not starving people, some organization would be out of a job. sooo... by just merely bandaging the problem, we are perpetuating it. if YOU don't want people to starve take them some food there yourself. don't bitch unless you are actually doing something about it, yourself, donating money does not help anyone. get off the computer and your ass and go to a country with starving people and feed them. or just stop trying to cut science down. i could go on forever about this.
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  • Long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away they built this same collider. That was about 15 billion years ago. It worked! See, time does repeat itself.
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  • We are playing with unknown fields of possibility, who truly knows what the investor's intentions are behind the go ahead when so many possible dangers have been overlooked. It's not unlike us humans to do such things, after all, some still believe that aspartame is harmless, most don't even question it. Yet it barely underwent any harmful effects studies before being released for consumption, or did it? Foods and drugs are but one strand in the grand tapestry, the FDA may exemplify this. Aspartame is now known to cause many problems, cancer being on that list. How could this serve anyone's agenda? Lets see, we make money from chemically induced food, then we make money from the drugs needed to heal us from what we unquestioningly consume. It may also help to know that Donald Rumsfeld had vested interest in the company that produced aspartame, not to mention a few large Banks. I wonder, what are the hidden interests behind the ludicrous amount of funds that went in to the LHC?



    What we know of the goings on in the world could fill a thimble. I do know what men of power want, more power. History shows us how many enthusiastic unknowing scientist served as paws in the hands of world financial and commercial Giants. Whatever is going on must be brilliant, and the profits are all going to the World Bank, think of the interest alone! Bankers exemplify true despot brilliance, "beware the money lenders". We can only see the tip of the iceberg, I sense that the truth is far stranger than fiction...



    This waa written by an anonynous; "Saying CERN invented the net is like saying Henry Ford invented roads'. Well as a matter of fact, Henry Ford did not invent the combustion engine or automobile, as a good man of commerce, Henry saw an opportunity. Nicolas Joseph Cugnot of France built the first combustion engine and automobile in 1769, he was a scientist with very poor commercial foresight. And by the way roads were not invented for Cars, they were invented for bicycles, and the first bicycle was invented by Compte Mede De Sivrac of France. You should have used his name in your analogy. Should we give credence to what you state? By the way, I'm not from France...
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  • Check out all the new essays...

    FQXi Essay Contest on the Nature of Time

    http://fqxi.org/community/forum/category/10

    ...foundational questions in physics, cosmology, and related fields.
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  • I can't wait til they find the Higgs bosson.

    Then my life will be complete
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  • the collider isn't going to prove anything just justify the fact that we as humans fall short of the glory and wonder of god. And how incredibly stupid a lot of us are and try to shoot particles at one another to find out what we already know, the fact that GOD created the Universe.
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  • Well I don't think it a waste of money because money is a tool to gain more wisdom and knowledge!
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  • Beyond imagination! David it's not waste of money, god give us something far better than holy book; intellect.
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  • hm hm. Hai everybody. I am a Time traveller from 2097. The particle accelerator is in its initial stage now. But in our time it has become smaller than the size of a laptop. We used to surf through time occassionally. Now I on the way from visiting napolean, france. See you by 2012.
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  • Ok, firstly some of the comments on this page are hilarious. It's so great to see so many people's reactions to this, well i guess you could call it latest experimental scientific creation, they've all been so different.

    Of course there's always the arguement of being too curious for our own good, but that is pretty much the way in which humans have advanced and will always advance. imagine if the first cave man didn't leave his valley to go check out the next one. Nothing would've changed.

    The greatest thing I like about this mammoth invention is the fact that it sparks my imagination. It would be so awesome to have a tour of it. Someone said they went on a school outing to it. I would love to know what it's like. In fact if anyone knows of any touring videos or websites which explain the whole set up I would appreciate it emmensely.

    Is that even legal though? I thought it would be very top secret, but I guess if a school is allowed to see it, then other people can.

    If anyone has any other interesting infomation links about time travel I would also appreciate it. I find it fascinating as well. Thanks
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  • You're right, it's a movie. "Lord of War", IIRC.
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  • The shot with antonov landing into the crowd is really from [US] movie - Lord of War.
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  • The F18 with the crumpled nose hit another F18, and took out (more then??) half of one of its wings. Both F18 aircraft made a safe landing, no injuries.
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  • http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/q0076.shtml

    Air Canada 747 a photoshop job
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  • The photo of the American Airline 777 experiencing an engine fire on takeoff is photo-shopped.

    The first picture just shows an F-18 with an empty MER - multiple ejection rack. I assume the picture depicts the return from a mission.

    Excellent photos by the way!
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  • The black and white image is a Piper J-3 Cub. He's probably trying to reach the compression release so he can get his engine restarted.
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  • "Indecent Exposure" also looks suspiciously like a photoshopped pic.

    The pic of the Sukhoi aerobatic plane upside down and crumpling - the pilot survived that crash, thankfully.
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  • The US transport with the cracked wings probably was fueled incorrectly. If you pump fuel into or out of the wings without opening the appropriate pressure valves, a vacuum resp. an overpressure is created in the wing tanks, which causes structural failure.
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  • The pic of the car falling from the plane, is a stunt done by skydivers in which they get an old car, strip everything out of it for safety and jump out of the plane in it for a giggle.
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  • Check out this moron in a mig http://splodetv.com/moron-mig
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  • The picture with the jet near a gas station is a Southwest Airlines plane that overshot the runway in Burbank:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Airlines_Flight_1455
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  • The F-18 with the empty stores rack is conducting normal flight operations; the yellowshirt to the left of the picture is telling the pilot to hit the switch to unfold the plane's wings to flight position.
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  • On your "better equipped for landing", that is a "Flinto". A strap-on for the Ford Pinto, sometime in the sixties I think. Only a few were ever made.
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  • great info! thank you - updated
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  • More "jumping ship", from Russia this time -
    The first on is Russian the second one is a Canadian Armed Forces CT-133.
    "Ejection tests carried out by CAF from the rear of the CT-133 coded 413"
    http://www.ejection-history.org.uk/Aircraft_by_Type/Canadian_CF-104.htm
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  • russian- the best!
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  • Don't forget Aloha Airlines "737 convertible" Flight 243,
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Airlines_Flight_243. An incredible performance by the flight crew saved many lives that day.
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  • To provide a little insight:

    The C-141 with the catastrophic wing failure fell victim to un-authorized fuel system plugs put in place during maintenance and not removed, the wing failed the first time they fuelled it.
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  • The Southwest Airlines B737 was not at Burbank, CA.
    No snow in Burbank plus the only recorded accident on the books for SWA is Chicago Midway a few years ago
    Ran off the end and crushed a kid
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  • That's chemical foam in Burbank, not snow
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  • I can corroborate the Southwest crash at Burbank (Bob Hope). The runway deck is elevated about 5 feet above the surface of the street. There used to be a gas station across the street from the end of the runway. The plane went through the fence, dropped down to street level and entered the gas station. Thankfully and surprisingly it did not hit any pumps.

    Needless to say there is no longer a gas station there, it's been replaced by some vegetation.
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  • 1) More info on the F-18 mid-air.

    2) Search YouTube for "crosswind landings". Lots of great ones, I won't bother listing them here.

    3) Surprised you didn't include the Kalitta 747 that broke apart at Brussels last month.

    4)"In the PronAir Boeing 747 radical lift-off", the gear seems to be all the way up. Unless he kept it low for a several seconds while bringing the gear up, and then pulled up, it doesn't look like a takeoff... Great fun nonetheless.

    5) You've seen this, right?
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  • Here's a photo of Oh! Hard Luck, a B-1b that belly surfed in Diego Garcia. lol The pilots forgot to do the proper landing checks, neglecting to drop landing gear, forcing them to belly land her.
    http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t49/celtgunn70/Planes/3129071432_6072a6ae73.jpg


    A B-1b & bus incident http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t49/celtgunn70/Planes/3129071432_6072a6ae73.jpg

    A-10 incident http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t49/celtgunn70/Planes/3129071432_6072a6ae73.jpg

    Get your kicks nacel incident http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t49/celtgunn70/Planes/3129071432_6072a6ae73.jpg

    I hope I managed to get the links right so they work properly. :) By the way, I've very much enjoyed surfing your website! :D
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  • My guess for the mystery picture would be an X-Ray machine. Pretty scary too.
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  • Your "Cat's rapture" picture is originally an internet meme called longcat, it's real name is "Nobiiru" (のび〜る, meaning "streeetch"). There are dozens more photoshopped pictures of this cat.

    The owner and original picture can be found at
    http://www.geocities.jp/my_souko/

    and some other pictures at
    http://www.geocities.jp/my_souko/withothercat/index.htm
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  • The last pic with the baby is a very early x-ray machine...
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  • Koala bears? Oh come on, I expected better from this site. Koalas are marsupials, not bears.
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  • Demarche of the penguins?
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  • Thanks for the info - updated - March of the penguins, lol
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  • I like the SimCity 2000-esque Archology. Pretty cool. Pretty scary, too. I don't know if I'd feel comfortable living in something like that. Looks like it would be neat, but dangerous, too.
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  • For me, Salvador Dali has always been the great surrealist painter. But you've introduced me to names I've never come across. I particularly like the work of Bak and Grie.
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  • I'm a big fan of Jack Yerka, and I know I've seen at least one of his paintings on this site.
    Thanks for giving me some new artists to explore!
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  • Larry Carlson is really the greatest!
    People call him "the Salvador Dali of the Next Century" because as well as creating these masterpieces he also makes insane movies,web art and music! Bravo !Carlson!!!!!
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  • Seeing the guy turning into a tree reminded me of this, the video for Ween's Transdermal Celebration by Adam Phillips: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU91POX33aE

    Check out his other work at http://biteycastle.com/
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  • A lot of cool surreal art here!
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  • RE: Mystery Photo,

    It is a US military photo circa 1941-1945. Along the lines of "loose lips sink ships." In other words keep your damn mouth closed about what is happening or you could give intelligence to the enemy that could lead to your death.
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  • Last photo should have title: "Say Good-bye to your USB mouse" ;-)
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  • mouse... of course!
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  • macman47 is right, here is an article explaining in more detail:
    http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/lslips.htm
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  • If you talk....

    American propaganda, WWII:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/45253/If-You-Talk-Too-Much-This-Man-May-Die-100-American-Propaganda-Posters-from-World-War-II

    Cheers.
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  • here is the eng. version of the rus. tank driver interviews.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUZKqpA5K20&feature=related
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  • what is that uuuuuugly thing?
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  • I think it's a turkey!
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  • the thing identified as a hyena is a xoloitzcuintle dog, aka the mexican hairless. they're kinda fun little monsters.
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  • Really funny. The second picture is Gizmo. I send you another funny elephant.
    http://clipaid.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/he.JPG
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  • I think i spotted the homeless elephant on adsoftheworld before... not shure
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  • I think that the three tigers in the water trough may be by Phil Parker (a.k.a TigerToy) -- I recall seeing it in one or more art shows at Chicago area SF cons (DucKon, Windycon or Capricon) with other photographs from the same exotic animal refuge
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  • The three tigers in the tub is in fact my photo. I took it back in 2002; the tigers live at Exotic Feline Rescue Center an hour west of Indianapolis, where I'm a volunteer.

    The pic has been all over the Internet for years.

    (Thanks, RonO!)

    Phil "tigertoy" Parker
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  • Phil, thank you!
    I included the credit.
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  • The uuuugly creature is, in fact, a typical wild turkey. If you've seen drawings of those turkeys, they have this fleshly appendage that usually hangs to one side of their beaks; it's a display thing. They expand and contract depending on the male turkey's... well... anyway, this one seems to have expanded all over uuuugly's beak, giving him the appearance of something bizarre and alien.

    There's a local lady who does wild turkey races at fairs. It is the most freakin' hilarious thing you can imagine, because turkeys are Dumb.
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  • Hello,

    Someeone gave me a tip to watch this site and I love it!
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  • The "prayer bear" caption is the usual stance of a Polar Bear as it is about to pounce/grab a Seagull or (unlikely but has happened in rare cases) a human. The Polar bear will then do a death roll (similar to what a Nile croc does) and will break its victims neck.
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  • Will, your comment made my day! very interesting.
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  • The penguins in the closet look like a Monte Dolak image that may be out of print
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  • the last one looks like "no peeing, else we'd cut it off...."
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  • The mystery animal is called an Axelotle (it was our grade 3 pet in Australia). have a look at this one http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/showthread.php?p=208475
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  • sorry its spelt axolotl or Mexican walking fish read about it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking_fish
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  • Hey we had an axolotl as a class pet too, in year 2 though, but also in Australia. My desk was right next to the tank, it ate frozen meat. It is actually a salamander though- it just stays in its larval stage.
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  • Love the puppy and cat!
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  • "There are three intersections like this in UK: in Swindon, London and in Cardiff, near Southampton."

    Either there are 4 or a major geographical disturbance - Cardiff is in no way near Southampton.

    And yay at seeing "Devizes" on a sign...on the big Internets! (I lived there).
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  • You missed the Marquette interchange in Milwakee Wisconsin. It wraps around the Aldrich Chemical Company building. You can drive past all sides of the building at several levels.
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  • I think city planners must clean the hair out of the drain, study it for a moment and say, "I think I could build that."
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  • lol - they might actually do it in spare time!
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  • "There are three intersections like this in UK: in Swindon, London and in Cardiff, near Southampton."

    And one in Hemel hempstead.....
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  • There isn't one in London, just this one in Swindon. I was driven across it by the police once after being arrested and was interested to obxerve that they just drove straight through it ignoring all the many markings and rules. This was at 2am, however, so there wasn't any other traffic- not that they would accept that as an excuse if I'd been driving.
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  • Seriously the traffic jams in this article are amateur stuff. Cairo, Egypt has the absolute worst traffic EVER!
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  • This just makes me wanna play SimCity 4 in the WORST way.
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  • the 7th picture from traffic jams is from bucharest, romania
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  • I used to take learners onto the Magic Roundabout in Hemel. They coped - it's not really as bad as it seems. Until a fire engine turns up - they just take the shortest line between entry and exit and everyone else scatters.
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  • The picture in São Paulo is not from Google's headquarters, but from Red Hat's office. It was first posted here: http://www.glommer.net/blogs/?p=189
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  • I used to live 100 yards from the magic roundabout in Swindon (pictured). I remember it going in, replacing a giant roundabout that was probably the busiest intersection in town. It was bewildering at first, but it doubled and tripled the traffic flow.
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  • You missed the 3 tier intersection in Sheffield, the murderous ring road in Bradford and the havoc wreaking Gunwharf Quays entrance zone that cuts up about a quarter of Portsmouth Docks.
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  • What's the back-story to the pic of the jam surrounding what appears to be a petrol station?
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  • You missed the worst traffic of Dubai. A 10 mins walk sometimes takes 45-60mins driving. And the crazy drivers that caused a pile up of 200+ vehicles on a foggy morning. Ghantoot Car Accident, google it.
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  • very cool... all these suggestions will go into a next part
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  • What about the Mixing Bowl just south of DC?
    http://www.springfieldinterchange.com/before_after.asp
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  • 'There isn't one in London' - certainly one in Greater London, outside Hatton Cross tube station.
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  • I will never complain about traffic here in the US ever again. Euro and eastern Euro traffic planners are utterly retarded.
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  • jay whitlow said he would never drive again after viewing these images and he's glad he lives in extreme-rural kansas where he can get anywhere he wants without using a public road and sammie gave up on roads being that they go in two directions and he never could figure out which direction to go.
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  • No traffic jam survey is complete without mentioning Bangkok!
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  • "You missed the Marquette interchange in Milwakee Wisconsin. It wraps around the Aldrich Chemical Company building. You can drive past all sides of the building at several levels."

    The Aldrich Chemical building is long gone - it was torn down at the very beginning of the Marquette Interchange rebuilding. (While the reconstruction did make the interchange theoretically safer, it didn't make it any less complex. In fact, I'd say it is even more complex than before.)
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  • tangle: Planners don't design interchanges, engineers do.
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  • That shot of the Miami Gardens interchange is a recent one - that's what it looks like after a reworking that seemed to drag on for something like a decade. Previously, the layout was so demented, that there were a couple of transfers from one road to another that took no fewer than 7 steps (exits, ramps, u-turns, etc.) to complete.

    The current arrangement is much less treacherous, though increased traffic volume has pretty much negated any improvements in the rush-hour commute.
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  • You cannot talk about intersections without mentioning Birmingham's Spaghetti Junction!
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  • What about Spaghetti Junction in Atlanta, GA?

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=norcross,+ga&ie=UTF8&ll=33.891846,-84.258978&spn=0.011613,0.0156&t=k&z=16
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  • Great blog! That one in Minneapolis of course isn't getting as much use these days because it is directly south of the 35w bridge that collapsed last summer.
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  • The image of this traffic jam at São Paulo it's definitely a good sample of what's going on every day here. Not to mention the ridiculously small tube lines and the lack of attention that mayor-house and state-house are giving for mass transport. Instead, they push car production by having a rotative system where you cannot drive your car in one day of the week during rush hours (depending on your car's plate last number: 1's & 2's can't drive on Mondays, 3's & 4's on Tuesdays and so on...). What happened is that who can afford, is buying another car to drive every day. Bloody dumb!
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  • That intersection in Minneapolis is .5 km from the 35W bridge collapse. I quit my job when that happened- traffic here is now horrible.
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  • and they call the geniouseses that design them roads/intersections experts ???

    LOL UNREAL !! wheere they get their Urban planning degrees from??? as a prize inside a bag of Lay ??? Im amazed you missed bangkok !!!!!!!!
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  • bangkok definitely deserves one ... but wierd how they totally missed out the unbelievable spirals of saudi arabia during the hajj. I was witness to how chaotic it gets there during the hajj. I was stuck in a traffic jam for 8 hours. the distance i was travelling was approximately 7km. *to think. the movement of 3 million people in the same direction all trying to get to another point before midnight.
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  • Railway Diamond Crossings.

    There is one in Newark , Nottinghamshire where the East-Coast mainline crosses the line from Nottingham to Lincoln. For years there were arguments between the individual railway companies that owned these two lines, with accusations that The East-Coast trains were given priority because that company operated the signals that controlled the crossing.
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  • God, I was in that crossing at Sao Paulo, Brazil at the same time that person took the photo. Yes, I'm from Sao Paulo, Brazil!

    It took more than an hour to drive a single block!!!
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  • This is the Aston Expressway in Birmingham england. http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=aston+expressway&sll=54.162434,-3.647461&sspn=13.303156,51.328125&ie=UTF8&ll=52.510762,-1.863856&spn=0.006373,0.014462&t=h&z=16
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  • it's good article, You can make your article (news/video/image) more popular to primary Indonesian Social Community site at InfoGue.com. Get more traffic from Indonesian community members by installing INFOGUE widget. thanks.

    your article:
    http://www.infogue.com/aneh/traffic_jams_paling_buruk_di_dunia_worst_intersections_traffic_jams/
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  • The magic mushroom roundabout, theres 2 in the county i live in alone, the biggest being the Greenstead roundabout in Colchester.
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  • that is only half of the I35W/I94 intersection in Minneapolis. The roads run next to each other for about half a mile to the east of the picture and then do roughly the same samething they do in the picture.
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  • This one in Frankfurt is crazy too, especially since it's so bafflingly complex for a intersection of two freeways that could be much simpler, imho:
    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=frankfurt&ie=UTF8&ll=50.07616,8.543801&spn=0.014817,0.031285&t=k&z=15&iwloc=addr
    I hate going through it.
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  • all of those pictures are a walk in the park compared to mexico city. you obviously have no whatsoever notion of what is traffic.
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  • The Turcot Yards Interchange" (due to be torn down sometime soon because they discovered putting the drains inside the concrete wasn't such a bright idea after all) is an interesting one too. Not the most convoluted but it's up there. It might help to decode it if I mention that the highway leaving to the west is actually contra-sense. That is, you drive on the left...
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  • None of the interchanges mentioned on this article or by the other posters come close to this one in Newark NJ.
    http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.70231,-74.176598&spn=0.022742,0.040169&t=k&z=15
    I've looked for ages to find a one
    that is more insane than this,
    and I just couldn't. In my opinion
    this is the worst designed interchange anywhere in the world.
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  • There are more than three magic mushroom islands in the UK
    >here
    is Colchester:

    and as for diamond crossings here is the double diamond at newark.
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  • What, no Cairo traffic?

    Like so. And some more.
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  • And one on the A13 by Canvey Island
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  • There are a bunch of underpasses in Arizona that resemble the "humorous solution". It's a good thing Arizona is a desert, because they fill up with water when it rains!
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  • i was in bangkok in february when it was offically declared (by head of traffic police) that it is NOT bad traffic, until you stay in the same spot and do not move for ONE hour.
    Additionally, they have many officers posted on roads to hospitals that are trained to deliver babies in cars! One officer being interviewed had delivered 2 babies in february alone. Gotta love Asian traffic...

    then we could talk about Saigon on a Saturday night... or even Seoul...
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  • i was in bangkok in february when it was offically declared (by head of traffic police) that it is NOT bad traffic, until you stay in the same spot and do not move for ONE hour.
    Additionally, they have many officers posted on roads to hospitals that are trained to deliver babies in cars! One officer being interviewed had delivered 2 babies in february alone. Gotta love Asian traffic...

    then we could talk about Saigon on a Saturday night... or even Seoul...
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  • What about the Grandview Triangle in Kansas City? Not the biggest, or even the nastiest, but pretty hairy to drive through even if you're a local.

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=i435+and+i470+kansas+city+mo&jsv=123&sll=39.054822,-94.472633&sspn=0.237277,0.43602&ie=UTF8&latlng=38936223,-94532456,13992783483913857487&ei=FquoSMPlLqTIigGCg8DbCg&sig2=rjIMyN6vcVRGkPzmdQd_9w&cd=6
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  • SPAGHETTI JUNCTION ATLANTA GA
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  • I've managed to live through spaghetti junction. My hubby was following me in a semi and missed the exit. I didn't see him for 4 hours. I was the one driving on a learner's permit.
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  • anyone ever hear about a place called "Los Angeles" ...

    there are these intersections about every 5 miles...

    check this one out as an example...

    http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=34.030772,-118.216259&spn=0.008358,0.021887&t=k&z=16
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  • These speghetti junctions are far better than the intersection of 22, 30, 65, 279, and 376 in Pittsburgh, PA. They all merge together for 1/4 mile and then split apart again. In that short span, everybody frantically changes lanes. Looks orderly on the map, but it's a total mess.

    http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.443028,-80.009093&spn=0.015612,0.02635&z=15
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  • "There are three intersections like this in UK: in Swindon, London and in Cardiff, near Southampton."

    I can honestly say that there isn't one in Cardiff. Sorry to disappoint.
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  • anyone know where #2 from the traffic jams is?

    http://lh5.google.ca/abramsv/R9WYOKtLe1I/AAAAAAAALO4/FLefbnOq5rQ/s640/495711679_52f8d76d11_o.jpg

    that's nuts!
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  • Spaghetti Junction in Atlanta (85-285) is pictured in another section.

    That isn't a petro station pictured, it's the Port strike.

    Also, what about Los Angeles? New York? New Jersey? Or horror upon horrors, CHICAGO!!!!!
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  • Very interesting selection of pictures ! Thanks for this article.
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  • Now I'm grateful to live in Los Angeles!
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  • looking at some of those intersections makes me never want to drive again. Fortunately, I'm not driving in any of those areas.
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  • Wow, crazy intersections! Also, check out this cool animated video about how traffic jams work:
    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/17/fastdraw/entry5093379.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody
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  • Hahahahahaha...no one mentions those terrible places in India where people get stuck for many hours...Gurgaon for example...Delhi and many others...
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  • I remember traffic jam #7! it was one day in Bucharest when traffic lights had failed in a major intersection. Eventually some people got out of their cars and started to direct traffic until it cleared out a little bit.

    The jams in Bucharest are not that frequent, but when they do happen, you can get stuck from hours.

    From my own experience, though, Bangkok is far worse...
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  • Your discus Good topic and good problem. I hate Traffic jams. World's worst Traffic Jams in my city Hyderabad(India)
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