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Prince Charles is an outspoken Royal not a politician.
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"Soviet Foreign Minister Gromyko " = Premier Aleksei Kosygin during a 1971 visit to Canada.
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Thank you Emily - they both had a sour face though at the time.
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Oh p-p-p-please give us a series of the "accidental" appearances of The Won with a halo....
Fair's fair.
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haha Putin under the skinned bear was so funny.
The policy of Mediedev about alcohol was very nice too!
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hahah Loooool!))))))) Very Nice pics))) "Serious business" awesome))
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thanks for the article. I had forgot that putin was from kgb, the "tourist camouflage" was interesting
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All of these were funny or interesting, apart from the Bush ones - it's still painful!
The Regan/Putin one in particular is incredible - easy to forget that he was a KGB man, and even easier to forget he must have done real KGB footwork at one time. Agreed that Charles isn't a politician, just a... right royal charlie. Mandy looks appropriately uncomfortable, also.
Love it, Avi - keep up the good work.
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Temptation?!?!?
Peter Mandleson aka The Prince of Darkness is a homo
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Peter Mandelson may well be gay, but what's for sure is that he's an oligarchic scuz-bucket.
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At least George Bush didn't bow to the Chinese !
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FIRST!
people might be interested that the fancy 1942 ‘Concept for Greyhound Coach Lines’ was predated by at least six years... THE GERMANS GOT THERE FIRST... as this link about
a 1936 semi-trailer bus proves, (1) semi trailer busses were a reality in the 1930s already; (2) semi-trailer busses did operate in germany in regular public service during the 1930s...1950s; (3) they even had
double deckers; (4) they even
operated on rails (insular railway of sylt; system sadly got scrapped in dec. 1970).
wouldn't that page warrant a copycat entry here on d.r.b.? just in order to celebrate the greatness of german semi trailer bus design??
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"His latest work is Duel Nature - heavily armed trees wage war for green cause and some oxygen"
Why would they fight over oxygen? To a plant, that is a waste product. Perhaps you meant carbon dioxide?
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He didn't say anything about a war over oxygen, he said it was over "sunlight and nutrients" (nutrients could be minerals in the soil).
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These women are imposing.
We used to see the amazon as the most powerful of all.
However, now the amazon is too substantial a body type.
The fashion is now to have a delicate form with the power to kill if necessary, and to lure when appropriate.
Vincenti
ToysPeriod is a leading online shop specializing in
lego sets and model railroad equipment.
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Philip K. Dick might be proud, but Isaac Asimov would be prouder!
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This post was a lot of fun, now I'm off to ride my bike.
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thanks! that was great
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I have invested considerable time and effort into the construction and research of zany bikes and so this post is pure eye candy.
I seem to recall some bike lane proposal that involved enclosed tubes, one for each direction, that were pressurized to help skoot riders along.
There are some pedal-monorails available here and there at amusement parks, mostly in Japan.
There is a version of the tandem robot bike where the rear rider is on fire:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6W7SLpdNaU
As for the multi-person scooter depicted, this is the fabled "chinese dragon bike", an infinite theoretical bicycle design that is part of bike chopper cryptozoology, such as the "front-wheel-drive, rear steer" or "tall swingbike" (a specimen of which was recently discovered in California). A Cyclecide geezer told me someone had tried to build one and it didn't work, something about how rake on the connecting joints makes it want to carve but it's all connected like one of those fake bamboo snakes that "hover". Make each segment have two wheels, set the connecting pivot to plumb, and you're in business:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAe3c4NKQgc
Flip and upside-down bikes have been around for a century (like tallbikes), not much new under the sun.
The extra-tall bikes pictured are, I believe, Atomic Zombie's, and if you look at the silver one- Project Skywalker- it has a steering bar that lets you control it during a moving ascent or descent.
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Great that you like the beer bikes. As an "Amsterdammer" myself I think I speak for all of us when I say:
DIE!
Drunken tourists blocking bicycle lanes, causing accidents, harassing locals (look at me I'm so funny, I'm giving the locals a beer shower). Only ****ing douchebags ride those things.
Other than that, excellent post!
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Ah, to be in Amsterdam, where someone on a bike isn't perceived as a homeless person or pyschopath. It gives you a whole other set of problems. I *wish* drunk tourists on beer bikes were my problem. What about drunk drivers in bike lanes!??!?!
In some municipalities, it is legal to be drinking on a vehicle as long as the operator is sober (and complies with various requirements such as having no open containers within reach or painting a white line behind himself) and so the beer-bike is a sneaky way to be drunk in public.
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Another Amsterdammer here: I agree the beerbikes are annoying as hell.
They are for tourists and peasants that go for a day out in the big city. Like on stag-night and such.
There's a reason drinking in public is frowned upon (if not locally banned) and these things illustrate why.
Nevertheless it is fun to do: the pedalling is heavy but the drinking relieves the public humiliation quite nicely and the feeling of intoxicated mobility is really good.
As far a I know the guys/gal with the steering wheel has to stay sober: because it's a big and heavy rig that can cause quite a lot of injuries and damage if you crash it. You can kill someone with this one (which hard to do with a normal bike).
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http://daviswiki.org/WhymCycles
WhymCycle makes exotic bikes from recycled frames. He rarely charges for them, beleiving them to be hart to be shared with people for the joy of riding them.
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Great article, as always! Two additions that might be interesting:
A drawing of the interior of the camper bike that is already in the article:
http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/files/kevin_cyr_camperbike_blueprint_600x438_118.jpg
And here's a concept bike for Cannondale by a Dutch design student. A new take on the classic Dutch bicycle with some very interesting details:
http://www.vimeo.com/6255436
http://vanmansum.nl/
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wow...a lot of these bikes just leave you speechless
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http://www.xylonbikes.com/home-en.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-EjHf9fads
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the white bike concept is awesome.
does anybody know if this is going to enter production?
check this video from top-gear
http://www.flixxy.com/carver-car-motorcycle.htm
that's just awesome!!
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Nice compilation of bikes!
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Yuji Fujimura's concept for an electric bicycle looks like Eve design from Wall-E - white and a little black and some neon blue :)
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The "Schweeb" NZ bicycle monorail will, thanks to a sponsorship by Google,, be trialled in a city that's still to be anounced: http://shweeb.com/
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Oh the first one is scary as hell like NIGHTMARE AT 20,000 FEET twilight zone!!
I can't bring the link on youtube though, i've watched a jet accidentally hit Migratory Birds at high attitude.
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Emus are considerably larger than Ostriches, notes this Australian
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i love the last picture; the event is on the news every year.
http://mimi-xo.blogspot.com/
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[Emus are considerably larger than Ostriches, notes this Australian]
Sorry, but the Ostrich is the largest bird species, not the Emu.
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I have nothing against ducks, and I don't denigrate the fact that 6km is very high. But a modern jet liner flies at twice that altitude.
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Where do you get your facts?! The Sooty Shearwater is outdone by the Bar-Tailed Godwit, which flies from Alaska to New Zealand, without stopping! Also, the bird with the longest migration flight is The Arctic Tern, flying from pole to pole. The Sooty Shearwater?! Pffft...
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Hummingbirds ...aren’t big, don’t travel far,...
Wrong!
Many species migrate between Mexico (or further south) and Canada. The Rufous hummingbird migrates all the way up to Alaska, following the USA Western Seaboard.
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I would point out that crows are considered more intelligent than dogs. Crows have been known to use timing and precision to have cars crack open nuts. Seeing the success of this, other crows model the behavior. not to mention they have over 200 unique calls with often specific meanings. Saw this on "is it possible" on discovery...
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Not only are ducks amazing, they taste good, too.
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Hehe love the latte links. I've got one more you should add to your list though! It's a great instructional page that gives a really easy and cheap way to make lattes at home and you dont need those huge funky machines! I think you should check it out. http://www.kaycircle.com/index.php?q=How-to-make-a-Latte-at-home-without-a-machine
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trying it out... still like the funky machines, though
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Where is the "Happy 2010" picture from? I think I recall seeing it without the words here before but I can't find it, now. It's a fantastic photo. Can someone point where I can find a copy without words over it?
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[aol] Me too! [/aol] ;-)
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Jack - the full-size image is at the end of this
article - it seems to be an ad from a European agency, but we'd like to get more info as well.
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it's astronaut Anna Fisher
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Thankyou to everyone involved with DRB for a very wonderful year of posts. My interwebz would not be the same without it. Merry Xmas and bring on a bright new year
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Come on Avi, tell the truth, that was you who was hanging on to the side of the house.
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Thanks, Avi, for another fascinating year! I look forward to being impressed by what you find in 2010.
Eric
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Thanks, that was fun.
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Thanks for all the wonderful topics this year, even if there were not so many... But there's an enormous archive to keep me occupied :)
Best Wishes for 2010!
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Happy New Year to you!Now how about some new stuff in the store?
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Thanks for the fun, interesting posts. Great site!
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Just wanted to let you know that the blue LED lights all over the ground is at Midtown in Tokyo, Japan. They do this "illumination" every year, each year a little different. It's a large lawn (not street) behind the shopping complex. The building you can see in the background is the Midtown building. It's in the Roppongi area of Tokyo.
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Piers Anthony's "Viscous Circle" (1982) features our hero transplanting his mind into a native's body, with the plan being to help despoil their planet, but eventually he goes native and helps them resist the humans.
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Is this a movie that an adult would want to go see?
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Midworld by Alan Dean Foster
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"Hunter, Come Home" by Richard McKenna. Giant alien trees connected by a network.
Though I agree with Sleestak that Midworld's home trees are a very close match.
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Deathworld is available as a free e-book from:
http://manybooks.net
Apparently the copyright was not renewed.
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I went and saw Avatar last night: a gorgeous visual feast and I was
impressed by how seamlessly the 3D elements cohered into the
narrative: technology that instantly becomes intuitive is usually technology that will augment one's experience immeasurably (think of
how intuitive the internet is, and how quickly we've come to
assimilate it into our daily experience!).
I think a polarised film over a television screen will be the next
step - we'll lose the hokey glasses because the screen 'wears' it forus.
As a writer, Cameron is an excellent director. 'Come to papa'. REALLY, James? Very chiched and banal dialogue. I nearly burst out laughing a few times. I support the simple plot as outlined in the post, but the dialogue borders on the ridiculous.
And army robots with combat knives?! Where's a corncob pipe for when the day's pillaging is done?
Just my 2c.
Anyhoo, cheery Christmas!
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H. Beam Piper's "Little Fuzzy" was brought to mind. Does a native alien race have the right to control the resources of its own planet over the machinations of a greedy human corporation? ("Little Fuzzy" is available at Project Gutenberg)
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Visually, one can see similarities between fauna, flora and terra (Pandorae?)in Yes album covers, specifically those by Roger Dean.
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You've got something here! Well searched huh? Really love to read your thoughts.
Thanks for this wonderful insights.
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Anne McCaffrey also wrote the Powers That Be series, about a damaged ex-soldier sent to a self-aware planet with an intricately inter-linked ecosystem, to get friendly with the residents as the military's woman-on-the-inside: she ends up going native, defending the planet from the industrial-military complex, and being healed.
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A withdrawn forest people from whom humans want something and are prepared to take it by force, then begin transformations from humans into forest people, sacred trees, sacred shamans, exotic relationships between people and animals, clash of modern vs medieval weapons and intelligent exotic animals. Finally, a populations in tune with all nature and the trees sheltering and servicing as the source and the network of that knowledge. Andre Norton: Judgement on Janus.
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The Themes and archetypes used in Avatar permeate literature and transcend culture and have been told countless times eg Eden lost through knowledge(technology), enlightenment through nature as apposed to the establishment, the clash of mans instincts with cold modern reality(disillusionment) and the story of the man how never dreams but at the same time dreams to much. anyone who sees something as being completely original has not done their research, and anyone who faults this movie for it's similarity to dances with wolves or any other of the countless stories, myths, and legends that employ the same premise or characters is short sighted. Any artist will tell you that everyone has an influence. some say it goes a little deeper then that. arising form our shared experiences(as we are all human this hardly seems surprising) we have a sort of collective unconsious ...Hm that sounds familare as well.
Thank you Joseph Campbell
anyone who says it is to simple a plot needs to do more thinking and less talking.
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Formerlawyer:
Not only is Deathworld available in print for free since it is in the public domain, but you can get an audiobook version for free from LibriVox.org as well. It's a halfway decent reading too.
OP:
I disagree with the statement that Deathworld has only visual and atmospheric clue and no similarities with the overall plot. In the big picture(tm), it is quite compatible with the plot of Avatar. It is only the time scale of the overall history of Pyrrah that differs with the plot of the movie. The war between the planet and the humans has been going on for 300 years. In the end of Deathworld, the planet's natives do mount a renewed and cooperative full-spectrum counterattack on the human base aided by humans that have "gone native." The overall plot theme is the same in the end.
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You also forgot Amy Thomson's Color of Distance about researchers going native.
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It's not Alan dean Foster's "Midworld". The people are blue in the movie and not green!
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Various works by Andre Norton spring immediately to mind.
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This is hardly a suprise: not that I've seen every single one of his movies, but James Cameron is not exactly known for the originality of his plots. The broad outline of Terminator is identical with that of the 1966 Doctor Who serial "The War Machines." Titanic is history with a generic tragic love story thrown in. Et cetera.
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Well, since people seem to be aware of Deathworld , let me weigh in and say that to characterize the humans as "space marines" is simply wrong. In fact, the colonists have rather evolved along with the native flora and fauna, adapting to heavier gravity and so forth. They aren't and never have been "space marines."
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Manta's Gift by Zahn employs the device of a handicapped man used to get inside the body of a native (stingray-like creatures in Jupiter's atmosphere.) They aren't avatars— his brain is actually grafted into an embryo, with the permission of the natives— but it's got its similarities.
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No one mentioned the second and third book of the "Ender's" series? I'm shocked.
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Just goes to show how hard it is to come up with a new plotline. They have already be done.
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carson:
A being appears in the sky,
a young woman with no sex life,
an angry 'king' sending his soldier to kill innocents, looking for the one who will overthrow 'him',
the being tries to calm the woman, telling her she will bare humanity's savior with the initials 'JC', they go on the run
the good guys win.
I'm not so sure he was ripping off dr who.
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i cant believe not a single person mentioned the masterful Dune by Frank Herbert.
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There were several scenes in Avatar that seemed like a ripoff of Aliens with Sigourney Weaver. And then later there was some music that seemed identical to music used in Aliens.
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I remember the first time I encountered the "telepresence concept", it was as a kid in the 60s with the juvenile sci fi book ROBOTS OF SATURN (great memories). The three young heroes encounter a hut on a moon of Saturn, in this hut are two guys apparently sitting unconscious with electrical contacts on their foreheads. It turns out they were remotely controlling/experiencing large and powerful robot bodies elsewhere on the small moon. Cool stuff!
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"La Planete Sauvage" Anyone.....?
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Anne McCaffrey, mentioned a couple of times above, also has a section in the early novel "The Ship Who Sang."
The titular ship takes a crew of actors to a planet highly inhospitable to human life. Once there, they project into alien "envelopes" in order to perform Hamlet for the aliens.
Several of the actors become too wrapped up in the sensations provided by the envelopes and "go native."
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Dune....it's much closer than the dragon riders of pern
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Manta's Gift? the list goes on..
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Without naming a particular title, I thought the whole film was redolent of great sci-fi/adventure Franco-Belgian bande dessinée (comic strips) of the past 50 years. Whereas Americans were fascinated by superheroes in long underwear, Enuropeans were following tha dventures of (1) "good savages" like Timour and Rohan ans (2) space explorers like the ones depicted by Moebius (and republished in the US by "Heavy Metal"). The same inspiration informs the recent movie "10,000 BC" - a flop in the US, a great success everywhere else.
Benoit Racine
Toronto
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I second, or third, or whatever, the artistic links with Roger Dean's paintings & designs. (band Yes covers but also other stuff) I was surprised not to see him in the credits.
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The special breathing organs on the 'dragons' immediately called to mind the 'superchargers' on the Ythrians from Poul Anderson's "Earth Book of Stormgate". I don't recall anything about it being mentioned in the dialog, but some auxiliary breathing system would be important (as Anderson made clear) for flying creatures of that size. Recent work on pterosaurs indicates that our own 'flying dragons' found a different solution to the problem.
http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2009/02/pterosaur_breathing_air_sacs.php
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I found it absolutely awesome. Simple enough. I saw many similarities to many books I have read in the past, but it was its own story.
Bravo, James Cameron.
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I think Blish's A Case of Conscience might be another one - though I haven't yet seen the film I must confess!
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Don't forget Roger Dean artwork on "Yes" album covers for floating rock formations
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Nice research article. Still doesn't excuse IP infringement. Wouldn't it be nice if 20th Century Fox posted some allowed fandom guidelines?
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In "The Stone God Awakens", a less known novel by Philip José Farmer, the main organism in a future Earth is a huge tree, that developed connections with all the other trees in the world, just like a mainframe computer with dumb terminals. It is a book from 1970.
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I enjoyed that Cameron pulled ideas from so many sources (intentional or not) to create "Avatar". Thanks for citing so many. I haven't seen Terry Brook's "Tanequil" mentioned here for its parallel to sentient trees.
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I noticed similarities between Avatar and an old HG Wells book I once read, I think it was called "A Dream of Armageddon", where a man was living two lives by being a soldier in the future while he was asleep and "dreaming" in the real world and vice versa. He eventually swapped over as the dreams got more real and exciting and real life became more vague and boring to him, and ended living in the world which was originally just his future dream "avatar". This was a great story, as is avatar. Loved the movie
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The guy who mentioend Roger Dean further up is right on--those floating landmasses and arches are right off Yes album covers, and even the dragon-ish things are very similar to some of his work (I'm thinking most specifically about that bland orchestral to Pink Floyd that came out in the mid-to-late-90s).
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What is this, TEN different sources? It's the Disney movie Pocahontas with aliens. That's it.
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Thanks so much for this brain-jolt. I've been trying to think of "Winds of Altair" since Avatar was first mentioned!
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You know the story. The dialogue is clunky ( i loled in the cinema ) and yet I found this film to be almost transcendental. Don't try and think while you watch it. Put your hood up and just be inside it.
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You know, it also reminds me of the movie The Mission, only in that movie, it turns our much worse for the natives. I still can't listen to Adagio for Strings without tearing up...
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Smurfs too! lol
But seriously it was a fun movie to watch.
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"The Emerald Forest", a great movie by John Boorman made in 1985. The white outsider learns the ways of the natives in the beautifully shot Amazonian forest, although this was not really a choice as he was kidnapped as a kid. He learns and become a real man during a ceremony, connected to the spirit of an animal. Then bulldozers come, wreak havoc and destroy trees (to build a dam). The native chief is killed, and the outsider will lead the fight with his tribe friends, some outside knowledge and technology (such as guns), and the help of forest animals (the frogs) and Mother Nature, to push out the white invaders. And he decides to stay in the forest at the end. And he falls in love with a native girl.
It all goes back to Campbell analysis. Like one movie with a thousand faces.
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You forgot Disney's Atlantis... Both bad guys even look the same!
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There's nothing completely original. Even the Iliad copied bits from previous stories.
Cameron got in trouble with _Terminator_ because he talked about it being inspired by two specific _Outer Limits_ (IIRC) episodes. One of the people he was talking to was a friend of Harlan Ellison, who wrote both episodes.
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Three more - Ray Bradbury's short stories:
- Here There Be Tygers
- And the Moon Be Still as Bright
- Dark They Were, and Golden-eyed
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A few people have compared the movie to my connected stories BLUE WAR, DEADSTOCK and IN HIS SIGHTS (all published by Solaris Books). One blogger directed me to his posts, drawing comparisons:
BLUE DEJA VU, from 1/3/10 http://daedahl.blogspot.com/2010/01/blue-deja-vu.html
And BLUE WORLDS REVISTED, from 1/9/10 http://daedahl.blogspot.com/2010/01/blue-worlds-revisited.html
" *both stories were told from the point-of-view of a disabled veteran (Jake Sully is a paraplegic in Avatar; while Jeremy Stake suffers from metamorphic paralysis in In His Sights)
*both protagonists travel to a jungle-like world populated by blue-skinned humanoids with almond shaped eyes (the Na'vi of Pandora; the Ha Jiin of the unnamed blue world)
*the blue-skins world is invaded by humanity solely for the acquisition of a rare and exotic subterranean resource (Pandora's ridiculously named mineral: Unobtainum; the Ha Jiin's strange subterranean gasses)
*on both worlds the mining of resources involves violating sites considered sacred by the blue-skins (Pandora's sacred trees containing the souls of their ancestors; the Ha Jiin's sacred burial catacombs)
*both protagonists were selected because their unique genome allowed them to assume the form of a blue-skin, infiltrate and gain access to said exotic resource (Jake Sully - his genetically engineered Avatar; Jeremy Stake - a mutant human with mild metamorphic abilities) "
I'm not claiming Cameron read my stories...as you say in the article, it's all just jolly good fun. ;-)
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Thank you Jeffrey, great info - and kudos to all other commenters who unearthed a whole bunch of other references. Great fun!
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Not classic science fiction but classic anime: Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind. Great movie with a couple of ideas which found their way into Avatar. For example the tree of soul's shimmering tentacles or the way the navi'i ride the dragons.
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Thanks for these. I just wonder how to go about getting hold of these stories. Are they at all still in print?
The similarities between all these stories are probably more than coincidental or influencial. I'm guessing there are a historical references in play as well. Maybe the colonization of America, Africa and Australia. And the Gulf war references, "The hearts and minds" tour, "Shock and Awe" campaign, were too obvious to miss.
But yes, these Science fiction sources are fantastic.
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How about "The Jesus Incident" by Frank Herbert?
And don't say you read the synopsis and it doesn't sound familiar...I read the book and saw the movie, they are definitely linked!
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Avatar was one of the best movies I have ever seen. James Cameron is the man when it comes to creating amazing movies!
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Totally riped from the animated movie "Fern Gulley"...right down to the bulldozer scene!! Can anyone verify this ??? Is there not any origionality anymore??
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My first thought was 'The Dragon riders of Pern' for the bonding between the dragons and their riders BUT, How about 'The Integral Trees' by Larry Niven?
FYI- Cameron said he drew from everything in his experience.
Abolutely beautiful-wonderful creatures and plants, esp. 'dragons'
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@xJENOVAx uep. frank Herberts the Jesus incident/lazarus effect had a planet called PANDORA which was crawling with HOSTILE WILDLIFE, and a type of sentient kelp that had a networked COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUS
with the other creatures on the planet, just like in Cameron's movie. I think they referred to it as ¨avata¨
I think there was also genetically engineered CLONES that were adapted for the planet.
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There are pyramids all over the world. There in the Amazon rainforest and to the poles. The sad thing is that the authorities do not reveal it.
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There are pyramids where ever there were large societies. Anyone who wants to build a structure that is very tall will fail until they realize the pyramid structure.
... At least until they can make steel girders.
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The pyramids are all around farms, the shape of a triangle actually funnels energy and directs it around the pyramid to help grow crops. Not much of a mystery, its just being hidden from the world.
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Apparently, there are pyramids to be found in Bosnia, too:
http://www.bosnianpyramid.com/
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http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://gallery.nen.gov.uk/gallery_images/0602/0000/0023/Point2_mid.jpg&imgrefurl=http://gallery.nen.gov.uk/image59400-.html&usg=__uoQ3W6jLthvbk7Y4uc7Qj0llmuw=&h=480&w=640&sz=112&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=pfXLnn7ccb5gCM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmilton%2Bkeynes%2Bthe%2Bpoint%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG
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Yeah, I heard someone mention that once; pyramids all around the world and in the United States that are "hills". So much we will sadly never know but interesting none the less. Thanks for the post!
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Polar pyramids and energy funnels, all being "hidden" and/or "not revealed", eh?
...Yeah, okay. I guess it's a good thing you lot have your foil-lined hats so as to prevent this valuable knowledge from being edited out of your brains via the world shadow-government's mind-control satellites.
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There's also pyramids on mars!
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Who doesn't know there are pyramids on Mars? You? Go and jump three times, you've been bad.
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Sometimes you just have to look around and find something you might be familiar with, but because of the daily routine of our boring jobs, we completely dismiss. One example of such behavior can be found in the people of countries with insufficient food and health services available. There are countries even that do not provide these services but they do provide money for the war effort, completely forgetting to develop areas for people to enjoy a nice quiet life. It's a shame that these countries can not satisfy their need to rule certain aspects.
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Pyramids in Greece too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid#Greece
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Cahokia in Illinois is one of the largest pyramids made of dirt and in the 1200's there were more people living there than in London at the same time. The site is huge with over a hundred pyramids of varrying sizes.
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Did you mention Luxor pyramid in Las Vegas?
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Someone tell me what they think about this possible Chinese pyramid. If it is a pyramid, it might be a couple of kilometres wide and is covered over.
+35° 13' 17.30", +110° 38' 36.13"
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=35.221472%2C+110.643369&vps=1&jsv=233a&sll=52.207808%2C9.623044&sspn=7.111392%2C13.754883&ie=UTF8&geocode=FeBvGQIdqUiYBg&split=0
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there are pyramids in Bosnia and Herzegovna in Europe, resarch is in progress ... check it out
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First off, pyramids weren't just crypts. Second, our governments aren't telling us what they really find in the pyramids. They are of alien origin. How can anyone say there's no mystery to pyramids when they're found all over the world and on Mars?
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