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Tuesday, March 25, 2008

Subliminal Advertising



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Subliminal Advertising: how it's done

Watch the video to the end to experience a veritable shock of disbelief:


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Today's pictures & links:
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This is a real weapon in use today

According to this source, it's a The Personnel Halting and Stimulation Response (PHaSR) - a non-lethal laser weapon which simply dazzles the aggressor:


(image credit: Kirtland Air Force Base)

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Upside Down Coffee Set

Pretty neat idea from a portfolio of neat ideas of Monique Goossens:


(image credit: Monique Goossens)

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Evolution of Coca-Cola bottles

More info


(image credit: wiki)

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Micro-Machines

More at Sandia MEMS bug gallery - note the size of gears, compared to the size of a mite!
(Courtesy of Sandia National Laboratories, SUMMiT (tm) Technologies)






(images credit: Sandia)

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Mixed fresh links for today:

Museum: Inside Human Body - [wow pics, click next]
Snow Art in Japan: geeky - [photos]
The weirdest way to stay thin - [vintage]
Web Sites Let Bibliophiles Share Books Virtually - [useful]
The Art of George Rhoads - [steampunk]
What they advertise, and what you eat - [gallery]
Beating Heart Sculpture - [gross video]
Changing Speeds: A Love Story - [hilarious video]
Big Dog: Ultimate Off-Road "Walker" - [robot video]

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Fantastic Yosemite Park Color Photography

From the portfolio of Vahé Peroomian:

For about one week each February, Horsetail Falls is illuminated by the very last rays of sunlight:






(images credit: Vahé Peroomian)

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Patricia Piccinini Art Update

Since our last article, unpredictable Patricia Piccinini has come up with more gorgeous weirdness. Looks like these gamers played a little too long:






(images credit: Patricia Piccinini)

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Sad Clowns

...and homeless, too:


(photo by Yakov Shubin)


(photo by Victor Ratushny)

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CERN 007

Hilarious Photoshop variation on Large Hadron Collider theme:


(image credit: BiomDefiler)

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"Top Performers" display in Russia

"We are proud of these people" - from some Soviet Brezhnev period (middle 70s) factory - click to enlarge.




UPDATE All the photos are of the same person! Take a closer look.
(thanks, Marc)

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Taking the Jump

These are staged photos (see all on this page) by Kerry Skarbakka:





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Finally, a request from one of our readers - if anyone knows any info about it, please email us.
Ian Nigel Staveacre writes:

"Many years ago... I found a photo article in (possibly) National Geographic magazine. It showed a truly magnificent miniature of Buckingham Palace:



This looked, to the best of my memory, seven feet high, maybe twelve feet long... But it was accurate in every aspect, right down to tiny little wine bottles with real wine, tiny magazines and books, there were real carpets, plush furnishings, fireplaces, with real framed art hanging above them.

All the detailed rooms had electric lighting, the water lines worked, they said... I was most impressed with the five inch-long vintage motorcycle, which they said had a real, working motor. That's about all I can remember... every single item inside and out of the model castle was accurate, and as real as they could make it.

What really surprises me is that I have been able to find out nothing about this thing. I have never seen it in any publication since, which also is very surprising. I have researched through National Geographic archives to no avail. I have even e-mailed government offices in the UK, and places like art museums, etc...they sent their regrets...never heard of it. That leads me to believe I must have seen this thing a long, long time ago. I can't believe it's sitting in some museum storage closet...

UPDATE
Our most excellent readers/researchers seem to agree that the miniature in question is of The Windsor Castle (Queen Mary's Dollhouse) - more info and images are here.
(thank you Spencer and Michelle!)

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7 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mayby http://www.egeskov.dk/en/titanias-palace

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re Buckingham Palace. I have a vague recollection of seeing this model on childrens TV, mid to late 70's. Maybe Blue Peter?

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Anonymous Marc said...

Those Soviet workers are all the same person, no? Am I exceptionally observant, or am I thick and that's an obvious joke to everyone else, or am I completely insane?

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Anonymous walker1812 said...

I think you are right that all the Soviet workers are the same person.. good eye. I felt it was too ridiculous to be real but didn't notice that.

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Blogger Matthieu said...

The chap in the soviet worker photo looks like Steve Pemberton from the league of gentlemen...

http://www.theleagueofgentlemen.org.uk/page5.htm

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

The model of Buckingham Palace mentioned is almost certainly Queen Mary's Dolls House, in Windsor Castle:
http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/page4488.asp
Genuinely amazing.

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Blogger Sigivald said...

The Phasr(pdf) is not quite "in use now", as it's an Air Force Research Lab development project.

Prototypes exist and have been tested, but I'm aware of no evidence that it's been deployed - but I wouldn't be surprised if it was soon, as civilian equivalents are supposedly available now.

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  • HOW DO YOU DO…
    TIME TRAVEL

    21st century boring you?
    Want a way to walk with dinosaurs that isn’t sitting really close to the TV to watch an unrealistic 3D diplodocus eat leaves?
    You need a holiday in time, or dinoworld

    Tick, tick, tick… tick

    1.5 million years since fire was lit, 35,000 years after the birth of art, 16,000 years from the first mappings of stars and 600 years since the blueprints of the helicopter were drawn. We sit here thinking, “Y’know the 21st century could have been a bit more, well, silvery.” Aside from those metal toasters that’ll burn a farmyard animal into your bread and those credit cards with one of the corners cut off a bit. The 21st century has had:

    No proper Robots. My house isn’t doing stuff for me when I go to work so when I get back it’s like a new house and the kitchens in the bathroom. Cars and skateboards don’t hover. We can’t holiday in space and the so called information super highway is still not bypassing my brain with an LCD screen in my eye and USB ports in my tippy toes.

    AHHhhhh, yet as a time traveller you can go to the future where these things should have occurred with a few other things that you probably didn’t think about; like a chocolate bar called waffpinuts. A wafer, pineapple and nuts bar wrapped in Kevlar.

    Then, go back in time to tell all those people on Tomorrows World that hoodwinked our innocent child eyes, “Hey hey, perm-head, that ain't going to happen you pre-foetus futurist fuck.”
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  • "a fraction of an inch"?

    Shame on you Avi. I'm sure they use micrometer and nanometer scales there...
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  • Great post, but I have a minor nit to pick.

    CERN invented the web, not the internet. I'll try to explain the difference without geeking out too much.

    The web is the to-level user interface - you just point and click to get around. It's very user friendly, but the real work is done by the internet.

    Let me make an analogy. It's a lot like the relation between the user interface (UI) and the operating system (OS) on your computer. The OS does the real work, but is difficult for non-experts to use directly. (think of DOS or UNIX) The UI lives on top of the OS and lets you do things by pointing and clicking. (Think of Windows) That's what makes computers useable by everyone.

    So if the web is the UI, then the internet is the OS.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet#History

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web#History

    Again, thanks for the post.
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  • The CERN is the most fascinating place to be if you're interested in particle physics...
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  • It's more than a minor nit. Saying CERN invented the net is like saying Henry Ford invented roads. When someone says something this far off base, I have to wonder about whatever else they've written, too.

    The pictures are pretty awesome though.

    Claiming 1/3 of the net's traffic routes through CERN is also just wrong; most net traffic does not leave its country of origin. It's like saying 1/3 of all car traffic goes through I-95. (akb427)
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  • This reminds me of John Titor.
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  • Hope it doesn't blow up the whole planet... No one knows. Anyway I will try to be on vacations far away when they flip the switch. What we know is that the risk is there. I heard many times that they were planning to "observe the big bang". Might not be the same scale etc... but, if you ask me, what they are doing is totally irresponsible. They never mentionned anything concerning the risks, I'm a bit worried...
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  • that smashing-Bibles-together comment was the funniest thing i've read in a long, long time. thank you.
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  • What? Oh my god. They're going to blow us up, or we're gonna get sucked into a man made black hole http://botw.org/articles/endworld.html
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  • I love the anonymous geebsmackers with their "well, he made one mistake so he's obviously an idiot" comments. Puhl-eeze.
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  • Awe inspiring and yet frightening at the same time. Could be a way to join general relativity and quantum mechanics and finally provide us a TOE. I want proof there are more than three spatial dimensions; the fourth being time.
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  • I know perfectly well that my comment is comparing apples and oranges, or perhaps apples and kiwi fruit, but...any scientist who really knows will say that the human brain makes this collider thingee look like a paper airplane next to the space shuttle.

    Remember, while this machine is impressive, it took the human brain to conceive the theories behind the technology, design it, manufacture the components, and assemble it. Now THAT's impressive! (Yeah, I know...as I wrote first, the brain is flesh and blood and this thing is mechanical...or whatever it is. But it's still man's work. But the brain...that's a masterpiece conceived and created by God.) Marvelous, marvelous.
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  • First of all I'd like to know how the heck they designed this in the first place. How do they know how they need to design all those intricate little parts when most people don't know how to program their VCR?

    Second, this seems dangerous as hell. If it destroys the planet then odviously we're too stupid and careless to be worthy of life and deserve our destruction. But piss on those scientists who just have to KNOW what happens when you recreate the conditions of the big bang.

    Third, who gives a damn other than the physicists and scientists? Seriously, more than half the planet doesn't have access to clean drinking water. With all the problems in the world, all the new technologies that could benefit ALL of mankind some enormous amount of money has been spent but will it end poverty? Will it put food on starving people's tables? Will it end wars, solve transportation problems, create economic bliss?

    If you asked me I think the eye opening stuff that this experiment will produce will only be interesting and beneficial to less than 1% of the global population. But hey, at least the contractors who worked on this made some good money doing it!
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  • Just to clarify, folks: There won't be any human-sized time-travellers stepping out of thin air at CERN when this things switches on... *Unless* the visitors have developed a completely different method of getting here.

    What the LHC *might* do is create something a bit like a tiny test-loop of scalextric track in time, that proves the principle of someday being able to build a full sized motorway. That doesn't mean a bus full of tourists will suddenly appear on top of it. (And if it did, they'd break it! =:o} )
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  • ...And to the anonymous fearmongers: The scale of risks are pretty much proportional to amounts of energy involved. Think of the scale of accident that occurs when people drive at 80mph rather than at 40mph: Twice the speed, gives four times the kinetic energy; give four times the destruction when you crash.

    Yes, the LHC will be accelerating protons to vast energies... *relative to the size of a proton*, which is incredibly tiny! They aren't going to destroy the planet. If they seriously booboo, they *might* trash some part of the collider which will cost megabucks to fix, but that's it.
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  • Lots more gorgeous photos of the Large Hadron Collider, and an explanation in non-geek language of why it's so cool, on National Geographic magazine's story, "The God Particle":
    http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/03/god-particle/achenbach-text
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  • @Peter: WTF is a VCR? Whats life like in the 80s? Is Michael Jackson still a star to you?
    *scnr*
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  • "more than half the planet doesn't have access to clean drinking water. With all the problems in the world, all the new technologies that could benefit ALL of mankind some enormous amount of money has been spent but will it end poverty? Will it put food on starving people's tables? Will it end wars, solve transportation problems, create economic bliss?"

    This reminds me of the apochryphal story of Michael Faraday demonstrating one of his electromagnetic devices for a visiting politician: the official supposedly asked him what possible use the device could be put to. Faraday's reply: "Someday, you may be able to tax it."

    What purpose did electricity come to serve? How many ways has it ended up ameliorating the ills of mankind? If we hold to the sentiment stated above, no one would ever have had the opportunity to find out.

    We don't know what lies behind a closed door, we must open it to see: perhaps to find riches enough for all, or nothing.

    If we establish a world where no one is allowed to take risks in order to learn, we should not be surprised to see poverty increase, not decrease.
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  • "G Pro said...

    Awe inspiring and yet frightening at the same time. Could be a way to join general relativity and quantum mechanics and finally provide us a TOE. I want proof there are more than three spatial dimensions; the fourth being time."

    You should check out Richard C. Hoagland and torsion physics. Build on the original Maxwellian physics (before a student of his rewrote his theories to 'clear them up'. Look at Maxwell's first or second editions...).
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  • Thank you Marylin - an awesome link!
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  • @ David Bryden (religion/creationism guy)

    In my opinion:

    Better spent money than any cathedral or church. Religion-based thinking never solved/discovered anything, it has only caused many years of slowing down technological advancements and caused humans to fight for thousands of years for a cause nobody can specify/prove/show...

    Everybody has the right to believe what they want.

    I say "let's drop religious cults once and for all", there MIGHT be something out there, but if we're gonna discuss about it we won't find it. Less talk more action!

    We should invest a LOT more in (Space) exploration because that's where all the answers lye, not in books written (and constantly adapted) hundreds/thousands of years ago by some men who wanted to have more power/money.

    I think lots of religious people would end up in "hell" (if there even is one) because they speak "in the name of God/Allah".

    Would you like it if I speak in YOUR name? You don't know who/what your "God" is, so you shouldn't tell others how to worship "Him/Her/It"! You might upset this force.

    If we non-indoctrinated people want to investigate through empirical research in stead of mindless swallowing ancient-old mombo-jambo, let us do so.
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  • @ the last anonymous, talking to david there.

    ok, you really think he's serious? did you even READ the second part of his post? he's obviously being sarcastic.
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  • Эх братцы !!! Ебанёт так ебанёт!
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  • hmmm, time travel o.O
    I don't really believe that it could happen, but I do think that it's worth the research and trying to do
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  • they still don't understand a grand unifying theory. so many things scientists don't know.

    But they "assure" us that nothing can go wrong.

    If they do recreate the big bang the good news it probably won't hurt for more than a fraction of a millisecond.
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  • So..if we go back in time and kill Hitler- are we going to get some Red Alert timeline?
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  • These 2 scientist go to God & say "We figured it out. We can spontaneously create life out of nothing! We don't need You to do anything"

    Good says "Show me"

    So the scientists start to show Him & reach down and and grab a handful of dirt.. Then God interrupts them and says " No.. go get your own dirt!"
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  • David Bryden you are a toolbag. Take the bridge.
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  • IM GOING TO TRAVEL TIME SO HARD
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  • Why haven't we found evidence of life in space yet? Because most intelligent species are too curious for their own good: They build a Large Hadron Collider, are surprised when it creates a black hole, and the last word they utter as their planet disappears is "oops."
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  • OMG, John Titor was really from the future !!!!!

    www.johntitor.com
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  • Fucking complex. It could and it could not work...time, time travel... something that can not be understood completely. It would be way to easy to "fuck things up." Believing it could be done, and maybe this is it?
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  • I don't think that they'll screw this up or destroy the planet blah blah like everyone's crying about. its CERN for christ's sake. these guys are probably 100 times smarter than anyone reading this article.
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  • If somebody invest such amount of money ho probably expects to get something out of is investment - in other word - Would you invest your many without a real possibility of getting profits?

    I wonder who invests and what he expects to get?
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  • Re time travel: may I remind you of the very convincing logic argument by Larry Niven that the only stable state is a universe where time travel isn't possible. :-)
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  • this race of aliens just tried it http://www.alphagalileo.org/index.cfm?_rss=1&fuseaction=readrelease&releaseid=528069
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  • How ironic it would be if the chronically neutral Swiss were the ones to destroy the planet. Too bad there wouldn't be anyone left to appreciate it.
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  • Time machine shtime machine, I wanna know who that hottie technician is!
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  • Interesting story on a structure that has huge implications. And thank you for posting all the pics; they really help in giving a proper sense of scale.
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  • who's the sexy engineer girl.. i want to marry her. Could you imagine the pillow talk ;)
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  • Well as time can say, there are still peoples that don't have good insight about too many things in this world, for then to say the dumbest thing should check their mouth at the door, because every things have a point of view and sure enough we have the one's that don't have the wisdom's that give us, shame on you for being dead in the brain.
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  • And about God, don't you think that the knowledge that he is giving us would help man kind along with the wisdoms that we have get. Why would he not help his peoples to learn the true, you have seen it in the book,it call the Bible: The of God.
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  • God put all we need to know about the Cosmos into His holy book.
    If that was true, we never would have to seek answers to our questions.
    If we were content with holy books, we never would enjoy the miracles of electricy (light, internet etc.) and optics (TV etc.); heck, we would still be living in tribes, hunting and foraging for our survivals. Population: a few thousands, since we wouldn't be able to effectively defend ourselves against predators of the era.

    God (in whatever form) gave us our talents and he would not like us wasting them, would he now?

    Leave your narrow mind behind; if you do not like the science, do not butt into it.

    Thank you.
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  • ok, it sucks that this has to be done...repeating: david bryden was being sarcastic. any person who commented on him by slamming religion, nice try, but you're a twat. smashing king james bibles together then re-arranging the tiny bits of paper to come up with new stuff is not *actually* a part of any christian belief system, as much as it makes sense to believe so. why don't you find something useful to do, like turn yourself into mulch. then you can help out the guy concerned with food distribution throughout the world by growing some out of your arse. seriously.
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  • wow... seems like some people have attention span to read only first sentence of anything... reading a book? what a strange idea.
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  • half the world is starving?

    You know what, screw that.

    If mankind were to focus our efforts as a whole to carrying every single person who can't feed themselves, there would be ZERO progress.

    The fact that most of the world lives in comfort (at least by the standard of being hungry) is a testament to the power of progress. If we spent all our time trying to get food to every hut and village that for whatever reason (be it their government, refusing to move, or refusing to adapt to a new world), then those of us who are pushing forward would never make progress.

    Screw them. There I said it and I'm not ashamed of it. It is not the fault of those who are progressing our world that every last person isn't being carried along the way... there are so many billions that ARE being carried that it outweighs it a thousand times.

    If the discovery of the telephone was replaced with a tribe being fed for a year would it have been worth it? What of the countless people who have been born since then (and possible due to) that invention? The changes to our world and improvements has saved/produced more lives then that tribe ever would have, and they're productive lives.

    Fault does NOT lie on the men and women of progress to drag along every member of society, it falls on both those people and their rulers. Look into the corruption and ass-hattery of some of these poor peoples countrys. Blame them, not the people who are trying to improve the world, and to hell to you for being so simple minded
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  • at least i got to see that sexy female physicist/engineer/tech before they push the big red button and blow the planet to smithereens.
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  • "Childhood's End"

    Human Kind had a choice. To remain as organic beings - simple and cooperative or to become distinct evolved processes of thought. Without bodies. There was a point of divination in this work of fiction and it occured ,... AT THE BEGINNING
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  • HOW IN THE WORLD could they have KNOWN that this is EXACTLY what I have in miniature in my newest ROCKET brand ray-gun? UNCANNY!

    http://informiorium.blogspot.com/2008/03/alrighty-folks-rocket-brand-ray-gun-is.html
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  • I speak from experience when I say that punching holes in reality is not a good thing.
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  • Nice pictures, but who’s going to benefit from all of this, really?, if you ask me the one that was on the right track many years ago was Nikola Tesla, with his later experiments and vision of a future with free endless energy for everybody, as soon as they knew there wasn’t going to be any profit, they buried Tesla and his projects. Tesla’s theories were fascinating, based on frequencies, he also though about time travel, and there are some documents around that prove his success, on the matter. they were safe and worked, doesn’t any of you wonder why no one has publicly develop Tesla’s latest inventions? or have they done it sneakingly, like with his development of the “death ray”, (HAARP) but with a different purpose. This CERN’s project sounds to me like a fifty-fifty an enormous risk based on one theory, and becomes quite scary when the one pushing the buttons doesn’t even know what’s going to happen. one way or another is a good thing to read peoples reactions to something like this, so thanks to every one.
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  • Goodbye folks. It was horrible knowing you. The end is nigh...
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  • Y ESA MAQUINA PARA QUE PUTAS FUNCIONA....???
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  • As peter said, who gives a damn other than the physicists and scientists? Seriously, more than half the planet doesn't have access to clean drinking water. With all the problems in the world, all the new technologies that could benefit ALL of mankind some enormous amount of money has been spent but will it end poverty? Will it put food on starving people's tables? Will it end wars, solve transportation problems, create economic bliss?

    If you asked me I think the eye opening stuff that this experiment will produce will only be interesting and beneficial to less than 1% of the global population. But hey, at least the contractors who worked on this made some good money doing it!
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  • This is my response to science vs. religion debate. I think, the bible is not really about the cosmos! God didn't inspire the bible to explain everything we need to know about science. That argument is irrational and absurd.

    Assuming the bible is true, and I think it is: the bible was created for a specific purpose. Mainly to justify Jehovah's right to rule (God's sovereignty). There are some side points as well. But, from front to back, it has a genuine theme. It tells us who God is, what he is like, and how to walk with him. It explains God's guidelines and regulations. It explains why things are so bad, and finally, it details God's plan to fix things; ultimately setting them right.

    In a nutshell, the bible can be defined as follows. It introduces us to God, tells us about him, tells us what's wrong with the world, what God did to fix things, who God sent to fix them, and what we must do to be fixed.

    The bible is basically a textbook for living properly. Or more appropriately, how to live in harmony with God. It has little to do with anything else. God created everything complex for a reason. Without complexity what fun would life be? It gives us more to learn. The bible says there is no limit to God's knowledge, so it would be impossible to tell us everything in one book. It only told us what was necessary. He knew good and well we'd figure out lots of other things on our own. That's what science is for.

    Albert Einstein said it best.

    "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
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  • Here is another well known Einstein quote...

    "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

    So when Einstein said "science is lame without religion and religion is blind without science" he was really saying...

    "Science is lame without the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world, and the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world is blind without science."
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  • So where exactly is the Flux Capacitor?
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  • Absolutely amazing stuff. I can't wait to read what they found out when they launch it (even if it's likely they won't find that Higgs bosson).
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  • Scientific progress goes "Boink!"
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  • CLEARLY ALIENS ARE HELPING WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY!!
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  • CERNs web site states that we have not been destroyed by effects of cosmic rays and micro black holes will evaporate.

    However, cosmic rays travel too fast to be captured by Earths gravity, and Hawking Radiation is disputed and contradicts Einsteins highly successful relativity theory. Collider particles smash head on like a car collision and can be captured by Earths gravity, and relativity predicts micro black holes will not decay (Hawking called Einstein doubly wrong, yet it is Einstein who is repeatedly found to have been correct in his theories). There is currently no reasonable proof of LHC safety, LSAG (LHC Safety Assessment Group) has been trying for months to prove safety without success. I hold the minority opinion that it may not be possible because it may in fact not be safe.

    Cosmic Rays from the legal complaint.

    any such novel particle created in nature by cosmic ray impacts would be left with a velocity at nearly the speed of light, relative to earth. At such speeds, . . . , is believed by most theorists to simply pass harmlessly through our planet with nary an impact, safely exiting on the other side. . . . Conversely, any such novel particle that might be created at the LHC would be at slow speed relative to earth, a goodly percentage would then be captured by earths gravity, and could possibly grow larger [accrete matter] with disastrous consequences of the earth turning into a large black hole.

    If this thing is so safe, why arent CERN scientists allowed to express any personal fears they might have about this Collider?

    Alleged in the legal action: Chief Scientific Officer, Mr. Engelen passed an internal memorandum to workers at CERN, asking them, regardless of personal opinion, to affirm in all interviews that there were no risks involved in the experiments, changing the previous assertion of minimal risk.

    (Statisticians generally consider minimal risk as 1-10%).

    JTankers
    LHCConcerns.com
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  • I feel a new Dan Brown novel coming on...
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  • hat's what they said about nuclear energy guys, and look where that got us in the early days... I've read about this thing before, about 4 years ago when they hadn't started building the physical tunnel yet. All I can remember from that is the same thing I'm thinking now; Is it really worth risking the planet to "see if we can do it"? in this case time travel, which, don't get me wrong, is an incredible concept to ponder over over a blunt with your mates, but not to test out on our already teetering ecology.

    The problem is that this is a man made machine and therefore prone to errors, and there is no 'dev box' to run a dry test run of this thing to see if it works, not least of which is that it is based on THEORY in newly entered scientific territory. The next point of contention i have is that, being humans, we tend to like power but are notoriously crap at wielding it with any sort of decorum or aplomb. Following on from that is the fact that this thing is designed to have more gravity than a black hole and more heat than the fuggen sun chaps!!! Furthermore, what of the potential social and civil implication of leaving a bunch of emotionally devoid morally bankrupt global megalomaniacs to their devices with a machine that can bend space and time? Think of all the downright dastardly stuff our honorable world leaders have committed behind our back, or more accurately, right under our ignorant noses.

    All i have to say to whoever is behind this?

    "Nice idea but go test out your toys on Mars, if you've truly even been there, assholes..."

    PS : Quote me on that.
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  • Maybe this is where all black holes come from. Each civilization crawls up out of the goo, acquires a bunch of knowledge and resources then goes Poof - black hole - galaxy forms around it.

    Next....
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  • "doesn’t any of you wonder why no one has publicly develop Tesla’s latest inventions?"

    Most likely because he went a little crazy in his later years and started calling relativity hogwash while touting his own theories about dynamic gravity.

    "not least of which is that it is based on THEORY in newly entered scientific territory"

    Well done. You've identified the purpose of science. Testing and hopefully confirmation of a theory through experimentation

    "Nice idea but go test out your toys on Mars, if you've truly even been there, assholes..."

    As if we need to waste another couple of billion dollars moving that big thing out onto another planet, let alone the risks of sending people to mars
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  • hmm. im not sure why. but i dont like it.
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  • Isn't if there was a functional time machine built any time in the future we would be seeing people from the future? perhaps that explains the pyramids and the hospitals full of crazies though.
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  • A couple of technical points:

    The 'invention of the internet' thing is a bit dubious to me, because if I recall the basic Internet protocols were actually a DARPA/ARPA (name changes based on era, it's been alternately called the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency and the less militaristic Advanced Research Project Agency).

    As to the black holes. People get really scared when they're mentioned, but in reality the dominant force of a microscopic black hole is not gravity. In addition black holes emit energy in the form of Hawking radiation. Any black hole that size would literally evaporate before it could aggregate enough matter to form a self-sustaining singularity. Very much faster.
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  • There seems to be a lot of fear mongering going on on this board. Does anyone actually have an idea of the risks involved (statistics), and might I add that the fear of blowing up the world has never stopped experiments in the past. Hydrogen bomb, anyone?
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  • This is quote from:
    http://www.notepad.ch

    It's a whiz-bang experiment, with a downside that could really suck

    This is a quote from an article by Graham (Graham Phillips is the presenter of ABC TV's Catalyst and a former astrophysicist) in The Age in Australia published on the 13. April 2008.

    Graham Phillips introduces the article with:
    'WILL the world end later this year? In mid-August, in a chamber deep underneath the Swiss-French border, physicists will switch on a machine that might produce the first man-made black holes. Normally only found in outer space, these high-gravity objects have a reputation for devouring all matter in their vicinity — and they only stop when the food runs out. Could the Earth's first black hole also end up being its last, after it sucks in the chamber, the physicists, and the entire planet?'

    This is quote from:
    http://www.notepad.ch
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  • wow, who is that engineer girl?
    i will devote my life to scientific experiences to join CERN crew and meet this girl :)
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  • Amen, brother
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  • Would you like to contact the CERN?

    http://www.lhcconcerns.com/LHCConcerns/Forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=136

    Regards

    admin
    notepad.ch
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  • It won't create a black hole that can devour the Earth. The experiment was already done. It followed Steven Hawking's Radiation, where a black hole can basically evaporate.

    And for time travel... it's only into the future. Sorry guys. Thats how relativity works. Travelling at near-light speeds allow you to time travel basically... which is only possible at the sub-atomic scale in this particle accelerator - smaller than an atom.
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  • This is a time machine and it works. 2008 is the earliest year we can return to because there is no way to go back any further, because the machine did not function until it was turned on. I know because it was 2013 and I finally about to bone my girlfriend, but then we saw that there was this black hole, and then she said that there was no-way.
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  • The end is nigh. We are all about to be eaten by a black hole. We are all going to die.
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  • Time machine... sheez! and these holy rollers... tsk, tsk. comparing this thing to the brain... Some of this stuff I just read, I don't know whether or not to be amused, insulted, disgusted, or just plain pissed off. And since anger always works, let me just answer the most important question:

    Because we don't know.

    That's what it all boils down to.
    That's what it means to be a tool using monkey.

    And when the tools we have don't answer the questions we discover using the tools we do have, why, we build a bigger tool. And that's what it means to be a tool using monkey fulfilling the will of god.

    So, yay CERN!
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  • I (and obviously many others) am interested to see if this massive investment of time and resources bears fruit. What I am not concerned about is the possibility that the earth will be swallowed into a man-made singularity.

    Even *if* such a thing were created in the collider, and even *if* Hawking was totally off-base and the singularity will not evaporate...ever, there will not be a sufficiently large superdense core mass to destroy the planet by pulling the entire thing into a singularity.

    Worst case scenario? Enough mass gets "sucked" and compressed onto our hypothetical singularity fast enough to create a dangerous and unstable layer that basically explodes violently and sprays around a liberal amount of hard radiation.

    Sure it might be a powerful enough effect to be like a small nuke (or a large nuke for that matter), and it may be possible that the effect could be perpetual, but the Atlantic is between the collider and my home, so it's not exactly an immediate problem, for me anyway.

    Now later on, once the singularity tunnels into the ground deep enough and digests enough mass, it will have more widespread effects and become a threat to the stability of the planet itself, but those guys at CERN are super-geenyous-es. They'll get it sorted out.

    Hopefully the thing would just get stably trapped in random materials at some point and get lost among the other rocks. ;-)
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  • guess will fkin killl us before NIBIRU does haha
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  • My god! So many people are retarded! First of all, they're scientists, not shelf stackers at office works. They know their stuff. Think about it, they have families too. Do you really think they just wanna kill themselves for it? Of course they don't! The world isn't going to implode! The world wont turn into strange matter! Aliens will not come out of some weird portal and recreate the events of the half-life series! And if it does? Then that's it. You didnt get to hook up with that hot blonde 4 doors down, you didn't get to have a kid, you didn't finish university, and you never got to play gta 4. See the people that matter most to you, be extra sweet to your girlfriend, treat your mumma right, come down to Australia, have a can of vb, and have a great time! Be happy with your life, and you wont have anything to worry about. You've got less than 25 days. If you're lonely go out and get some friends, just talk to randoms. Go skydiving, unless you're scared of heights, then it could kill you. And if that's not your thing, fine. Doesn't matter if you just like to sit at home and watch military comedies with dad, or cook with mum, just be happy no matter what comes in your way. Have fun =)
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  • they used a stretch of that for the filming of terminator 3 (when they are running along that big magnet thing 2 kill that sexy terminator in the red leather suit LOL
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  • Turn that silly thing on, I'm ready and willing for anything that happens! I've always wanted to go through a black hole to see if you really can't escape. How would anyone know that you can't?... I wanna see if this thing really does produce black holes, and if it does, we'll probably start researching them ASAP. And if it doesn't well then we have a whole lot of new stuff to look at on our hands. It's simple people! We watched too many fake movies about microscopic black holes that can eat our planet - who's to say they will grow big huh. How would you know, have you lived next to one? Have you done research on one? I have much more to say. But most people probably wont even read all of this. But if you do want to send me a message, send it to my myspace cuz this is just some site I wondered on. www.myspace.com/Wraith3777
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  • Awww...a MINI BLACK HOLE! How adorable, I want one! Is it friendly? Will it eat cat food? How big does its bunker have to be?
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  • I liked to oops theory!
    So, by now, what we're going to say is: "oops I did it again"...
    Yeah, it's certainly a time machine!
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  • I am in awe of this machine!!! It is truly amazing to see this taking shape and starting up and to imagine what it must have taken to build it. The pictures are stunning. This machine seems to sum up what is best about humanity - perhaps even more so than the politically tangled moon landings and early space program. This is a quest for discovery simply because discovery is essential for us and our civilization - and a fundamental part of us. That transcends the gloom generated by all the people who just cry 'waste of money' and worse because they cant see or understand the end result of it and therefore assume that it will be 'worthless' - or cannot see the huge human significance of this and other big projects. You want waste of money, look at the military budget or the crazy political systems that surround us. It is this sort of exploration and the understanding that it slowly generates that will help us progress away from the primitive and selfish outlooks and relationships with the world that we have now. To cure poverty and fix the world's woes, you have to fix human culture as a whole - and you do that by discovering and thinking. Not by just buying them a meal. You do it through amazing experiments like this and people who dare to try things or think things where they dont know what will happen. That's where everything that surrounds us came from, after all!

    Given the Amount of money that people as a whole spend on killing each other - sorry, otherwise known as the military budget - i am very glad we decided to pump some cash into something like this. It proves to me that humanity isn't hopeless. This machine is what humanity is all about!!! Cant you feel the throb of it? Beautiful! ;-)
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  • US Military Budget for 2007 = $439,300,000,000 [439.3 BILLION]

    Cost of LCH = up to 6,400,000,000 [6.4 BILLION]

    So yes - agreed with the above! Talk of wasted money seems a bit silly really, doesn't it.
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  • I work @cern. We create a Star Gate.
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  • This is our new bredband internet. In the pipe are our glass fibers.

    Got the picture?

    We also use the tunnel for cheese and as a modern winecellar.
    And as a safe place to store money.

    It just a big swiss army knive, with timetravel option.

    That girl is an actor we hired. She works for Adecco a believe.
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  • Aha! The truth comes out..
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  • Actually the unit will force the planet to change the magnetic poles, so that point will be magnetic North shifting the earths rotation. So hold on Folks! Time to ride a planet!
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  • this whole thing is just cool - and if we end up being sucked into the black hole it will happen so quickly we won't even know what happened - we wont even know - we wont even - we wont - be
    cool
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  • sooo... to all you who are wondering what this is going to do for all the people that are starving and without energy, blah blah. it actually will benefit everyone. when mankind has a unified theory of physics we will be master manipulators of our environment, we would be able to come up with great new ways to create energy and control our environment. science is about being in control of our environment through total understanding. if we can understand and harness the very stuff that everything is made of we could create endless energy and on and on. science builds on itself, scientific progress may seem meaningless to some, but in the big picture it always leads to a better life for everyone. how the hell do you think you got to even be able to type some of the stupid shit you all are saying. science, it brought you the internet, your phone, your car, your keyboard, your children even (science has saved many children at birth that normally would have died). the fact is most of us would not exist now if we tried to solve everyone's problems. we can not save the world we can only save ourselves. all this talk about starving people is really a product of the media trying to market products to people. stop paying money to make comercials about Darfur and just fix the problem. the problem is, if there was not starving people, some organization would be out of a job. sooo... by just merely bandaging the problem, we are perpetuating it. if YOU don't want people to starve take them some food there yourself. don't bitch unless you are actually doing something about it, yourself, donating money does not help anyone. get off the computer and your ass and go to a country with starving people and feed them. or just stop trying to cut science down. i could go on forever about this.
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  • Long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away they built this same collider. That was about 15 billion years ago. It worked! See, time does repeat itself.
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  • We are playing with unknown fields of possibility, who truly knows what the investor's intentions are behind the go ahead when so many possible dangers have been overlooked. It's not unlike us humans to do such things, after all, some still believe that aspartame is harmless, most don't even question it. Yet it barely underwent any harmful effects studies before being released for consumption, or did it? Foods and drugs are but one strand in the grand tapestry, the FDA may exemplify this. Aspartame is now known to cause many problems, cancer being on that list. How could this serve anyone's agenda? Lets see, we make money from chemically induced food, then we make money from the drugs needed to heal us from what we unquestioningly consume. It may also help to know that Donald Rumsfeld had vested interest in the company that produced aspartame, not to mention a few large Banks. I wonder, what are the hidden interests behind the ludicrous amount of funds that went in to the LHC?



    What we know of the goings on in the world could fill a thimble. I do know what men of power want, more power. History shows us how many enthusiastic unknowing scientist served as paws in the hands of world financial and commercial Giants. Whatever is going on must be brilliant, and the profits are all going to the World Bank, think of the interest alone! Bankers exemplify true despot brilliance, "beware the money lenders". We can only see the tip of the iceberg, I sense that the truth is far stranger than fiction...



    This waa written by an anonynous; "Saying CERN invented the net is like saying Henry Ford invented roads'. Well as a matter of fact, Henry Ford did not invent the combustion engine or automobile, as a good man of commerce, Henry saw an opportunity. Nicolas Joseph Cugnot of France built the first combustion engine and automobile in 1769, he was a scientist with very poor commercial foresight. And by the way roads were not invented for Cars, they were invented for bicycles, and the first bicycle was invented by Compte Mede De Sivrac of France. You should have used his name in your analogy. Should we give credence to what you state? By the way, I'm not from France...
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    FQXi Essay Contest on the Nature of Time

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    ...foundational questions in physics, cosmology, and related fields.
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  • I can't wait til they find the Higgs bosson.

    Then my life will be complete
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  • the collider isn't going to prove anything just justify the fact that we as humans fall short of the glory and wonder of god. And how incredibly stupid a lot of us are and try to shoot particles at one another to find out what we already know, the fact that GOD created the Universe.
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