September 11 Premonitions
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 "QUANTUM SHOT" #270Link "I Told You So" will be just too cruel thing to say When we reflect upon the horrendous events of 9-11, we can't help but stumble upon different premonitions and uncanny coincidences that took place BEFORE any of this had happened. This article is an attempt to collect together all such instances of unintentional insight and creepy prediction. We'll start with the most incredible of them all, courtesy U.S. Mail Service:  An ad from Pakistan (!) Airlines, printed in 1979:  (image credit: Pristina) World Trade Center brochure, 1984:  (image credit: hipsteria.com) An example of really bad timing:  (image credit: Emily Paup) We linked once to this book cover already: amazingly, science fiction became a terrible fact on this occasion: "Year's Best Science Fiction #2", ed. by Gardner Dozois, art by Thomas Kidd... (courtesy kdecay)  Domed Manhattan is nothing new, but WTC is definitely in trouble:  What exactly hits the towers? This page from a very famous Spanish comic named "Mortadelo y Filemon" shows it without any doubt... It originally appeared in 1993.  (sent in by Tony, from Valls) Another comic, appeared in 1984, see here.   Fragment of a fantasy painting by Boris Vallejo, 1997:  These Trading Cards (INWO by Steve Jackson games) were printed in 1993/1994:  Eerie Russian ad, which appeared in the issue of "Renovations & Interior Decorating" magazine on the week of 3-9 September, 2001 (!!!!) (it basically says that the company makes the original designs, not the copies of existing skyscrapers) - via  The following ad probably dates back to the early 1970's. Found by by Eric Luttrell, who writes: "Apparently the builders were banned at one point for using any more asbestos in the WTC after 1971. Per the entry on Wikipedia: "Asbestos was used in the first 40 floors of the World Trade Towers and ended up contaminating the air around lower Manhattan after the towers collapsed. Steven Milloy suggests that the World Trade Center towers could still be standing or at least would have stood longer had a 1971 ban not stopped the completion of the asbestos coating above the 64th floor."  Also, as a part of "Low-flying Aircraft" collection of vintage float pens, we have one where the plane literally flies into WTC: (send in by David Fogg)   Unfortunate coffee mug:  (image credit: Capo2) General Electric advertisement for a fridge (2000):  "The Coup" CD, created before 9-11  "Tom Clancy wrote two bestselling thrillers about a pilot deliberately flying a fuel-laden jet into the Capitol building and killing the President and top leadership (Debt of Honor, 1994; Executive Orders, 1996)" - More here. Comic heroes had their share of unfortunate WTC references: Spiderman, 1991:  Wonder Woman actually flies her plane into WTC:  And Optimus Prime hangs between the destroyed towers in the old "Transformers" comic:  Sesame Street monster on a rampage:  All of these, of course, occurred unintentionally, but there were pictures that photographers took on purpose, having some strangely powerful premonitions of the event. Here is the image Chris McKinstry took in 2000, while having a thought that something like this may happen:  Read a sad account of Chris McKinstry life and death here... A couple of pictures in memory of WTC:  (image credit: Stefano) "An impossible vista, now"  (image credit: Chris McKinstry) There was "Faith before they fell" (that church got destroyed,too) -  (image credit: Gary H. Spielvogel) There is still faith, after. Permanent Link...  Category: History Dark Roasted Blend's Photography Gear Picks: |
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Avi, you have used numerous times Mrbabyman to digg you stories & failed miserable. Now you want to cash on the sentiments of the people by using events of 9-11 & I should appreciate the timing of your post & choice of your digger. Shame on you & how can you call yourself a blogger? Just to make a quick buck, want to divert traffic from digg to your senseless post? Avoid such cheap gimmicks!
I don't think that is what he is trying to do. Almost every website today is commemorating 9/11, is he not allowed to? It would be kinda silly if he posted this blog a fews from now while everyone else is talking about it today!
Avi, I recently stumbled upon your website, and to be honest I think it is a great website/blog. Keep up the good work...and forget about the critics. You can never make EVERYONE happy.
Here's another one: www.geheimgemein.de/gallery/combined.jpg
These Trading Cards (INWO by Steve Jackson games) were printed in 1993/1994
"how can you call yourself a blogger?"
As if being a blogger is some kind of honor. Big deal - you sign up for a free account and write about whatever pops into your head.
At least Avi is doing something useful with his blog - entertaining us. Where else would I get my updates on weird happenings and inventions?
Other bloggers post daily updates about how someone gave them 2 sugars instead of 3 in their coffee, taking up useful disk space and bandwidth. Avi, keep up the good work, you have one of the most useful blogs out there.
I liked the stamp and the pakistan ad (weird).
I have the same WTC brochure from 1984 in my house and thought the same thing.
Nice work
Check out "Divided We Stand: A Biography of New York's World Trade Center," which was published in January of 2001:
link to amazon page
you forget this spanish comic from 1984
http://predicadormalvado.blogspot.com/2007/09/rebelde.html
sorry:::
http://predicadormalvado.blogspot.com/2007/09/rebelde.html
MrBabyMan submits to digg on his own. ...as do dozens of others who like our articles. We don't rely on Digg traffic.
Distasteful in my opinion especially for 9/11. A tribute in pictures would have been better if you wanted to touch an such a topic.
I call bullshit on the stamp.
The US Postal Service has never issued a stamp like that.
It's a clever photoshop.
Notice the bottom is cut off where the caption/denomination of the stamp would be.
The postmark doesn't look correct either.
Did not see the movie but apparently Super Mario Bros movie had a scene showing one or both of the buildings damaged.
IMHO that was a mistake
Screw the people that think this was inappropriate.
EVERYONE else has enough coverage of the day, this was a little different, and I liked it.
Go watch CNN if you feel like weeping...
Hey folks, you do realize that the internet is just like the TV or radio? If you don't like it, don't read it.
I think this was a fascinating subject, especially how the Twin Towers seemed to be a really popular symbol of the U.S. overseas, perhaps moreso than it was in the U.S. itself.
It's been six years. There's only so many tears than can be shed in that time.
Who are these people who come on this blog and say "I find this distasteful." Are friggin nuts? Have you ever seen what ELSE is out there that the majority of sane people actually find distasteful?
I was in NY on 9/11 and my wife was one of those people who ran from the towers. There is NOTHING offensive or distasteful about this post.
SHAME SHAME shame on you people who judge. You need a reality check.
Critics tend not have the ability to think for themselves.
And in other media we have the pilot episode of the "X-Files" spin-off series "The Lone Gunmen" in which there is a plot to crash a passenger jet into the WTC in order to justify a foreign war.
(The conspiracy nuts have been having fits over this one)
Chilling...
There is also a children's book about flying a 747, the title of which escapes me at the moment. One page shows the view of the WTC from the cockpit. I don't know when the book was printed; probably late 80s/early 90s.
There's a New Yorker cover that has two seagulls flying towards the Twin Towers. I'm sure it's laying around here somewhere...
Speaking of 9/11 coincidences, the WTC attack was actually the second time in 2001 when Muslim radicals destroyed two towering structures before an outraged world.
Remember the giant stone Buddhas of Bamiyan, Afghanistan, laid low by the Taliban a few months before September 11th?
That's not Optimus Prime, it's Rodimus Prime.
This guy really predicted the attacks . He´s name is Benjamin Solari Parravicini, he´s argentinian and take a look what he has drawn http://www.losenigmas.com.ar/images/bspwtc.jpg
the text says "The North American freedom will lost his light, its torch will no longer be lighter like yesterday, and the monument will be attacked twice" ... scary!
re: Benjamin Solari Parravicini
Wow, I gotta read up on this... quite a prophetic picture, drawn in 1939, before towers were even built!
Noone says anything about the Lone Gunmen pilot premiered months before the attack. In that story the heroes saved the two towers from the attack of a plane organized by the government.
Dream Theater also had a cover depicting New York (and the WTC) in flames*— released on September 11th, 2001. They recalled it and issued new artwork but my husband has a copy of the original cover because he had been eagerly awaiting the album. (The image is at the bottom of the page.)
*One of the band's recurring symbols is a flaming heart in barbed wire— they'd just added the NY skyline to that image.
Great post. Don't listen to the fool who believes you're "disgracing" the "blogosphere." They sounded bitter to me!
Don't forget the movie "Escape From New York," which starts when terrorists hijack Air Force One and crash it into a Manhattan skyscraper. I'd say that gave the terrorists some ideas.
http://wiki.hehz.net/images/0/0d/Nojoo.jpg
There is an opinion, that 9/11 - a handwork of masons. And thus they warned each other. Marasm? May be... May be..
I pretty much liked the "Asbestos Poster".
But don't make the mistake to think about how asbestos was going to save the WTC on 9/11,
The thermite and C4 explosives used to bring down the three world trade center buildings were placed with surgical precision.No one could of save these poor souls...
May they rest in peace...
On Sept. 11, Jackie Chan was supposedly about to start filming a movie at the World Trade Center where he fights terrorists who want to blow it up. See
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/jackchan.htm
There's also a painting by Alex Grey (Fans of the music group, Tool, will know who he is), entitled Gaia, depicting two planes flying towards two towers while Bush Sr., Saddam Hussein and a phallic looking demon-creature are walking together, arm-in-arm in the foreground. Its nearly impossible to see the detail from the image on his site (http://www.alexgrey.com/), but if anyone wants to see it, up-close, there's a video about it on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08R8tgvXa7o
Don't forget the Hardy Boys mystery
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/urbanesmala/1184477567682.jpg
Makes you wonder.. At the risk of getting flamed here. I dont really think the U.S. did not know this was going to happen and I also think that the U.S Big wigs were behind it in some way.
You see how most of our so called presidents love to play war games.
I was in the Military/ I know the bull shit that gets fed to the public and what really goes on behind closed doors.
Hi, I would like to tell you something that happend to me, I had a dream about the twin towers and a huge explosion about a week before it happend. My dream was strange to me, and at that time I did not understande it, I had never seen or even thought about the twin toweres so you can understande the shock I felt the day I heard the news on the radio, about 9 11, in my dream there were two very large buildings side by side one had a purple light around it and the other a green light, ( that part about the colores I still do not understande.)
anyway I was standing out side with the towers in plane view, suddanly there was a huge explosion (I did not see the plane in my dream thou) however after they explosion there was dabree and ash flying ever were.
There may be people who do not beleve what I have written however
this is they hounest truth.
I Wish this had not come to pass
and to all those who lost someone in this terrible event, I am truly sorry for your loss pain and suffering it has brought.
kay.
Kay, that's pretty fascinating
In early 2001 I was designing a computer simulation of a tensegrity model where you could build a structure and test it's strength, and one of the ideas was to test the strength of the model by flying aeroplanes of varying sizes into it (inspired by a game called BridgeBuilder where you test the strength of a bridge by driving a train across it). On the splash screen of this game would have been an illustration of the B-25 bomber that crashed in to the Empire State Building in 1945.
I was distracted by other projects so I never completed it (thankfully!) but on September 11th 2001 the friend who I had been discussing this idea with phoned me up to say "Remember that building simulation game we were discussing earlier this year? Turn on the telly!"
I turned on the television to see a replay of the second plane hitting the South Tower. My immediate thought was "That was my idea! Bastards got there before me!" before the horror of it all sunk in.
Premonition? I don't know - certainly not a supernatural freaky one. There was a lot of anxiety about working in skyscrapers and terrorist attacks - a friend of my mother's had warned her son not to accept a job in the Canary Wharf Tower, London, because the West had made a lot of enemies and tall buildings were vulnerable to attack. That fear was certainly around before the events of 9/11.
My idea, strangely enough, is still on the back burner...
Alex Grey's Gaia painting is the best 9/11 premonition pic out there, add that / check it out!!!
I felt this was a notable reference as well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man_%28film%29#Release
You may remember the original Spider-Man trailer.
By the way, it baffles me that this entry doesn't have more comments. I find it while very disturbing, of much interest.
thank you floacist, great tip... I saw this trailer in theaters
One thing not mentioned here is the album cover of the Cassandra Complex' 1988 album "Theomania". What's in a (band's) name…
http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=164235
so good.
Around the time of the attacks, a German DIY store chain ran a billboard campaign which showed the glass-roofed shopping arcade (destroyed in the attacks) near the World Trade Center and the bases of the towers. Oddly enough, the slogan of the campaign was "Lamps make every space beautiful".
One of the billboards was left up for several months after September 2001. They probably forgot to remove it.
Dom DeLillo's Underworld had an interesting cover
http://www.amazon.com/Underworld-Novel-Don-DeLillo/dp/0684848155/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1243389103&sr=8-2
Don't forget the King Kong remake poster,whic had the big guy straddling the two towers ,or "Godzilla vs Magalon," the poster for which had them battling atop them. I was amazed at Chris Carter's series "The Lone Gunman," which had as a plot, a government faction remotely controlling a plane to crash into the towers in order to start a war with the terrorist countries, for weapsons sales.
Those towers were fated for destruction.
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